Posted February 23, 2014

Report: Angels, Mike Trout discussing record-breaking extension

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Mike Trout hit .323 with 27 HR and 33 steals last season. (Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

Mike Trout hit .323 with 27 HR and 33 steals last season. (Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

The Los Angeles Angels are negotiating a contract extension with outfielder Mike Trout that Yahoo Sports’ Jeff Passan reports could be worth around $150 million over six years.

The deal would be a record for a player with just over two years of MLB service, but Trout has been exceptional in his career so far, coming in second for the AL MVP award in each of the last two seasons, in addition to winning the Rookie of the Year award in 2012.

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The two sides are focusing on a six-year deal, which would keep Trout with the Angels until he is 28 years old, and pay him an average of $25 million a season. The center fielder earned $510,000 last season, and would earn about $1 million this season if a deal is not reached.

Trout has declined to discuss the negotiations with the press at spring training, saying he would prefer to focus on preparing for the 2014 season.


47 comments
MattRagusa
MattRagusa

 Come on Mike. You KNOW you belong in Phillies pinstripes! 

dt
dt

These contracts are retarded...

The_truth_hurts
The_truth_hurts

The Angels are the Yankees-West. How many horrible huge contracts can you give out before you realize it doesn't work.

mult336
mult336

The only thing that matters is how many years off Free Agency this buys out and i think it may be 2. He came into the league at age 20ish so he would normally be a FA at age 26ish. If he got to the open market at age 26 who knows what kinda of crazy offers(12 years 360m from the Yankees/dodgers) he would get so this would be a solid move to lock him up right now til he is 28 years old. The reason Trout does it is because may lose a little value by losing a year or 2 of free agency  but he gets 150 guaranteed to him no matter what happens to him.

biasedsportsfan
biasedsportsfan

I applaud the Angels for being willing to properly compensate their best player, even if they aren't absolutely required to yet.

Jaybird85
Jaybird85

I've been thinking about this for a week or 2. I would offer him 15 yrs, $500 million. I know it sounds crazy, but he has a right future, hes a top player right now.  And if Trout would turn it down, I would trade him within the near future, get a boatload in return, possibly dump one of those big contracts as well.

JPG
JPG

Yeah baby, another $25 million dollar payday to a player that will never get your team to the promised land let alone to the playoffs.

Dude, didn't you learn you're lesson from Pujols, Wilson, and Hamilton?

The_truth_hurts
The_truth_hurts

The Angels are notorious for these horrible big deal signings. This guy will waste his career away in Anaheim. 

John4
John4

Also, Trout should be batting third.  (Not lead-off).  By batting him third, he would easily pick up 25 - 30 addtional RBI per year, and the Angels would pick up more wins due to the increased run production.  The Angels cleared up a log jam in their lineup by sending the (low average hitting) Trumbo to Texas.  Now Trout should be batting third, Pujols fourth, and Hamilton further down in the lineup.  (To reduce the pressure he seems to feel he's under).  Any manager who puts Trout in the lead-off batting position should be fired immediately.  

(Of course this will actually INCREASE Trout's market value - assuming he passes on this proposed 6 year deal, and will make him the first player to get a contract with over $300 Million dollars guaranteed.  It's going to happen).  

John4
John4

If Trout signs this contract, he will be leaving a record amount of money on the table.  When he becomes a free agent, he is looking at 10 years, $350 Million for at least a few teams (Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers).  Why sign for $10 million less per year (then he can get)?  Doesn't make sense.  Trout for 6 years, the Angels should be paying you at least $170 Million. (Home town discount figured in to contract amount).  

isaiah43
isaiah43

better keep on eye on this kid........

John4
John4

@The_truth_hurts  A huge difference exists between Trout and Pujols, Hamilton and Wilson.  Trout is very young and the prime of his career is AHEAD of him.  The other three?  They signed huge contracts with the Angels AFTER their prime.  Big difference.

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@mult336  loses no real value, this deal allows him to sign two big contracts, one now and one at 28, if he becomes a free agent at 26, he gets one huge deal and whatever the arbitrator gives him for his arbitration seasons.

John4
John4

@Jaybird85  I think 10 years is the max, and 10 years $350 Million would certainly be agreed to by Trout, "in a New York minute".  If you know what I mean.

biasedsportsfan
biasedsportsfan

@JPG Trout > Pujols, Wilson, and Hamilton. Especially for the next decade.

train805
train805

Those rbis wont happen, if no one is on base in front of him. And I think trumbo went to Arizona, not Texas.

This is a smart move by a team that usually lets the owner make the big FA decisions. He's still going to be a great player at the end of his contract, and I doubt he's gonna have a no trade clause in this extension. They could move him for a ton in a couple years if they are hurting, and I doubt his annual salary will scare off too many teams willing to get a player of his caliber.

From a business perspective, this is a fantastic deal, as the people who come to games in anaheim, or the band wagoners will hitch on because of trout, and not pujols or hamilton. (both horrible decisions by Moreno! and not dipoto)

I would bet money that if trout stays healthy, he will have the top selling jersey for the next 5-8 years. Let's just hope he stays away from doing too many commercials or nonsense that hurts other players focus.

I'm a yankee fan, and I'm extremely jealous of the angels getting this deal done right now.

bfa2ak
bfa2ak

@John4  The most recent studies suggest that the team's run production would be maximized if the best hitter hits second. But it's also a fairly marginal difference.

Zero1337
Zero1337

@John4  Hes not going to get that much money in his arbitration years however. Which is why he'd be agreeing to this. Hes basically trading away future profits to be paid like the star he is today so that he can actually live his life in style.

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@mystafugee  he is forced to stay with them for the next for years anyway, might as well make $25 million a season to do it

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@biasedsportsfan @Jaybird85  15 years is way too long for one deal (too much risk, and at $33.3 mil AAV, not much reward), but I don't have a real problem with paying him that much over a 15 year span if they were say a seven year deal, and an 8 year deal with a an opt-out after 5 to spread out the risk of career ending injury. Honestly $500 mill will probably be in the ballpark of what he makes

John4
John4

@train805  Yes, Arizona.  Not Texas, I apologize.  The RBIs will happen.  Trout will have the benefit of a leadoff batter on base instead of a number nine hitter on base.  (Hopefully the Angels can find a leadoff hitter, not named Trout, who can get on base more frequently than a number nine hitter in the lineup).  

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@train805  they actually have to get it done first, the Angels still have to convince him that he isn't worth more than Kershaw, a highly debatable point

John4
John4

@bfa2ak bfa - (If you're correct, then Trout should bat second, Pujols third and Hamilton later in the lineup.  (Not fourth).  Why in the world does Scioscia have Trout leading off?  

biasedsportsfan
biasedsportsfan

@Zero1337 @John4Precisely, He has, what, 2-3 years of arbitration? Though if anyone has some clout at the bargaining table, it should be him...

John4
John4

@BryanCustard Then he should negotiate a 4 year contract at $25 Million per year.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@John4 @BryanCustard 

...because we can't POSSIBLY rate a ballplayer's value without newfangled SABR stats.  I can just see the Angels telling him, "Sorry, Mike, your WAR is too low for us to give you a Kershaw deal."

And just to stir the pot with all the stat-heads:  Jack Morris is awesome and should be in the HOF.

John4
John4

@BryanCustard Kershaw's W.A.R. 28 in six seasons.  Trout's W.A.R. is 20 in two seasons.  Comparing Trout to Kershaw benefits Trout in a HUGE way.

John4
John4

@biasedsportsfan I think you're right.  (The assumption that Pujols and Hamilton would be driving him in).  BUT with his HR numbers and slugging pct, a move to second or third in the lineup is long overdue.  

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@biasedsportsfan @John4 @bfa2ak  Plus, it made it impossible to pitch to the two hole hitter. If Trout and Pujols are right, you cant throw anything but fastballs to the 2 hitter, because you don't want two on base for Albert, and you want to give your catcher the best chance of throwing out Trout trying to grab a base. Torii Hunter had a GREAT season hitting in between those two, and honestly, it might not be a bad spot for Hamilton if he could show even a modicum of plate discipline. The idea of having to throw Hamilton fastballs almost exclusively is scary, he gets in most of his trouble swinging at breaking pitches out of the strike zone


biasedsportsfan
biasedsportsfan

@John4 @bfa2akspeed/obp (and he was previously operating under the notion that Pujols and Hamilton would be driving him in all the time)

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@biasedsportsfan @Zero1337 @John4  And another point that is lost: he is only making $1 million this season, I'm betting there is a signing bonus tacked in there that raises that figure as well, which will only add to the other factors offsetting his choice to sign over two free agent years at $25 mill

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@biasedsportsfan @Zero1337 @John4  telling you guys he is not giving up that much money, they will offer him a similar contract at 28 as they would at 26. The arbitrator probably would not give him $25 million, especially for his first, and likely second years of arbitration, so he will gain some money there, and lose a little because he would probably be paid slightly more than $25 million for first two free agents years, but the net there is not significant. This deal guarantees that Trout signs two major contracts over the life of his career. He will probably sign this one (6 years 150) and another for 8-10 years ($30-$35 million AAV depending on inflation)with an opt-out after 4-5 (he would be 32-33, time to sign either a fat 4-5 year extension or ride out the rest of the deal). This deal is kinda perfect for both sides, as it provides cost certainty for the team and allows Trout to still sign a second major contract

w7
w7

@John4 @BryanCustard  the angels have ZERO incentive to reward him with a four year contract for that much money because they already have him under team control for the next four seasons. the only benefit for the angels in this proposed deal is two more years of him on their team before he can become a free agent. if they have reason to believe they won't be able to sign him once he hits free agency in four years (in the scenario where he doesn't sign any contract with the angels) then they will be paying him much, much less if he gets his $1 milliion or so this year and then through his three years of arbitration, where he will likely set records for arbitration salaries. but it won't come close to adding up the the $25million a year he would get under this contract being talked about.

BryanCustard
BryanCustard

@John4 @BryanCustard  if he could get that done he definitely would, but to get the $25 in arbitration he has to sign away first two years of free agency. Classic negotiating tactic because no way does the arbitrator give him that, especially first year