Posted January 28, 2014

Dolphins tackle Jonathan Martin: ‘I felt trapped’

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Jonathan Martin had started seven games for the team this season. (AP Photo/Alan Diaz)

Dolphins offensive lineman Jonathan Martin had started seven games for the team this season. (AP Photo/Alan Diaz)

Miami Dolphins offensive tackle Jonathan Martin sat down for his first interview since leaving the team in October, telling former coach Tony Dungy he felt trapped because of the situation with teammate Richie Incognito.

A portion of that interview with Dungy aired during “NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams” on Tuesday night.

Incognito was suspended with pay for conduct  detrimental to the team after leaving vulgar and racist voicemails for Martin.

“I’m a grown man,” Martin said. “I’ve been in locker rooms. There’s vulgar languages in locker rooms. One instance doesn’t bother me. It’s the persistence of it.

“I wish I would have had more tools to solve my situation. I felt trapped, like I didn’t have a way to make it right. It came down to a point where I thought it was best just to remove myself from the situation.”

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86 comments
BarrySoetoro
BarrySoetoro

How can this be--martin is"Stanford educated" and according to the media no one from Stanford can be fooled--even the underwater basket weaving majors.

bendover1
bendover1

Please Indy, do not waste another pick and trade for this fool!



synmax11
synmax11

Martin should have confronted Incognito and let him know that his behavior was bothering Martin.   Martin should have kept this in-house and let the Dolphins management and players handle this.  Instead, he disappeared and then filed a formal complaint and a press release.  


This article also doesn't mention the messages Martin left for incognito using the same "I'll kill your whole family" language or the strip club pictures of a happy Martin with naked streippers sitting on his lap/


I have theory that Martin's parents saw or heard Incognito's messages to Martin and were offended.

Martin's mother is a workplace-harrassment attorney. I think she pushed him to file a legal complaint and seek psychological counselling to set up a lawsuit.  
Martin himself left Incognito a message several days after he left the team saying that he didn't blame Incognito or anyone on the team but that things have gotten out of his control.  

Does that sound like a bullied person? 

Martin is a smart kid, who has been forced into this situation but he also has to know that if this complaint becomes a lawsuit, his NFL career is over - no NFL team will pick him up

utoo
utoo

I'm so over the Martin controversy. First we should be talking Superbowl. He is trying to distract from the big game making him a jerk just like Incognito. Who is going to want Martin on their team with this distraction.

dei1c3
dei1c3

Regardless of how you feel about the whole Martin-Ingognito thing...Martin (and his people) choosing to put the issue back in the media this week was in incredibly poor taste, IMO.  These week should be about celebrating the two teams that have achieved the most this season and are about to play in the league's biggest game not a work environment case where neither of the people involved are even working right now.

List
List

A lot of silly saber-rattling here, particularly because it's clear that most of the anti-Martin posters are putting this on a "male measuring stick", which inevitably turns out to be MUCH shorter and smaller than advertised...


Those self-righteous ones who think that this should have been handled in a certain manner apparently didn't read what Martin wrote about this - "I wish I would have had more tools to solve my situation. I felt trapped, like I didn’t have a way to make it right." This speaks as much to a failure in the Dolphins organization to create or maintain avenues to address the silliness that low self-esteem folks like Incognito have to use on others as it does to Martin's inability to resolve it.


Look, there's no one way to be a man, to address situations, and to respond to abuse - there's no one way to be ANYTHING. The bottom line is that Martin has put this out there - he deserves credit for taking that step, which I think is courageous, particularly in his environment. 

Hopefully, something good and lasting will come out this.

KeysSteven
KeysSteven

Curious timing of this interview (NBC), maybe indication NFL's investigation is poised to post?

JubJub
JubJub

I really wish this overgrown, sloppy child would just go away.   

thebigdawg3
thebigdawg3

You feel "trapped" and I feel like want to puke every time you open your cry-baby mouth, you frickin pu&&y.

triathloncoach
triathloncoach

Now that he knows another NFL wouldn't hire him, here comes the lawsuit. "I wish I had more tools" 

tmel41
tmel41

Are we all forgetting about Incognito's college days.  He got kicked off of two college teams and was drafted anyway.  Miami got a guy with major issues.  He was an a** then and is still an a**.

Terry
Terry

You people are hypocrites.

You call Sherman a thug because of words, but Incognito is your hero because of more hurtful words.

Tell us again how it isn't about race.

ShawnPischke
ShawnPischke

It's hard to believe a grown man wasn't able to stand up and defend his right to be treated the way he desired. Instead, he walked out on his team and left them hanging.  That not being enough, he couldn't handle business behind closed doors with the organization after the damage was done creating a huge distraction to the team and organization.  There should be zero tolerance for bullying, racism or sexism, but a responsibility also lies with each person in the locker room to be accountable for themselves and stand up when somethings not right and handle it the right way. 

keeroc15
keeroc15

Cheer up Johnathan.  You will be the #1 draft choice in the lingerie league.

RuKdingMe
RuKdingMe

For Incognito, seems Martin proved the old adage 'with friends like this who needs enemies?'

MarkDeRosa
MarkDeRosa

People need to stop giving this clown attention. You can say, "He is a real man" and "Cavemen blah blah blah" but in the end Martin ended up looking like a kindergarten tattletale. He shouldve had some self-responsibility and taken it upon himself to deal with the issue. That doesnt mean fighting, it just means look him in the eye and tell him what the problem is. That never actually happened.

sarteestmd
sarteestmd

@utooAre we to assume that Coach Dungy who interviewed Martin and allowed it to air during Super Bowl week is also a jerk?

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@dei1c3  Oh did Martin upset your cherished fantasy of the Super Bowl as some sacred magical event? It's a freaking corporate profit fest, nothing more, nothing less. A few very wealthy individuals are getting far wealthier this week because fan-boys like you worship at their feet. Grow up, get a life.

sarteestmd
sarteestmd

@ListCouldn't agree more. All these anti-Martin commenters live their pathetic lives vicariously through the testosterone infused lives of their heroes. Then they shut off their computers and go to their work-a-day jobs and lives. Pretty sorry people. Maybe Martin could of/would of/should of handled it a different way; or maybe a different way didn't exist. He was 1st string offensive tackle on the Dolphins team out of college. That speaks volumes. Incognito is a misogynist Neanderthal but a great football player, too. His talents are needed on an NFL team, just as Martin's. But not the other stuff.

Jared87
Jared87

@JubJubCouldn't agree more, he's just in it for a money grab from Incognito, the Dolphins, and the NFL.

crashtx1
crashtx1

@thebigdawg3 Your comments are funny knowing he could snap your pencil neck with two fingers. But hey, whatever you need to try to feel like a man.

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@triathloncoach  If he does sue, I wish him well. And as much as I love watching football, the reality is that 4% of high school kids who play suffer a life-permanent injury, 5% of college players, and 7% of pro players. Many of those are brain injuries. Do we really want to support a sport that permanently screws up so many good boys and men? I wrestle with that.

utoo
utoo

@TerryNobody is calling for Sherman to be banned the way they are calling Incognito's ban. Because of the Thug, Incognito, NFL teams will be changing locker room policies.

WilliamCross
WilliamCross

Really? Can't black guys just be jerks too?

rlouie11
rlouie11

@ShawnPischkewould it have been acceptable if he had stood up to Incognito with a gun???? I guess when a player does that then doing what Martin did will be acceptable huh???

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@ShawnPischke  "There should be zero tolerance for bullying, racism or sexism"

Yes. And that's exactly what Martin exhibited -- zero tolerance. He's a model for all working persons who encounter an intolerable workplace. If YOU personally wish to stay in a workplace where you are being harassed and bullied, that's your prerogative. But don't judge others for simply leaving that workspace, which in many people's opinion was the right thing to do. It's not Martin's place to "defend" himself (as you say). He has nothing to defend, nothing to hide, and no reason to "fight back". He did his fighting on the field, and had no interest in fighting team mates off the field. 

matthewmhunter
matthewmhunter

@ShawnPischke good point. As much as everyone thinks other/teamates etc have the responsibility to man up to Incognito and stand up for what's right and to tolerate his behavior, why can't we expect the same standard of Martin that we expect of everyone else? Everyone else has an obligation to stand up against what's wrong, except for Martin? 

WilliamCross
WilliamCross

I encourage you to take your opinions to Mr. Martin directly.

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@MarkDeRosa   As a human being, as a citizen, as an athlete, as a real man -- I would take Martin any day over people like Incognito.

Mathonwy
Mathonwy

@MarkDeRosaWere this a playground, you might be right, but this was a place of employment covered by laws just like any other. A person is not obligated to confront a co-worker who creates a hostile work environment in the NFL any more than at Walmart. Mr. Martin was hired to play football, not endure the insulting rantings of a HGH-soaked manchild.

sarteestmd
sarteestmd

@Jared87@JubJubIdiots. Conduct like Incognito's would not be tolerated in a locker room like the Seahawks or the Broncos or the Patriots or pretty much any NFL team. It was a leaderless locker room and chaos ruled. As Shannon Sharpe said, there is no such thing as an honorary black man (as Incognito referred to himself as). That statement alone tells Shannon Sharpe everything he needs to know about the Dolphins locker room. Martin was 1st string and a Stanford graduate with a flawless locker room past. Incognito got kicked off the Nebraska football team for detrimental behavior, a team that practically tolerates their players raping women.

bmurray912
bmurray912

@Jared87 @JubJub Are you two idiots? He's not going to get money from Incognito. That's laughable. And if anything, he will hurt his chances to make money in the future. Teams will undoubtedly shy away from him thinking that he can't handle an NFL locker room.


This only hurts Martin financially. 

Mech
Mech

@crashtx1@thebigdawg3 I don't think the man has the balls to snap anybodies pencil neck,,,,, he would want to talk it out first and then have second thoughts and wish he were more of a man.

Chums41
Chums41

@CarlLegg @triathloncoach The life-permanent injuries, while terrible, are irrelevant to this story. He suffered the same indignities that players endure on every level, with the key word being "Endure". He's a 24 year old Stanford educated  grown man, earning $390,000 per year. The average salary for a Stanford undergrad is $ 53,000, so I'm finding it difficult to feel sorry for him. Further, why doesn't a Stanford grad have the necessary tools to solve adult issues. While Martin attended Stanford on a scholarship, the cost of an undergraduate education at Stanford is $218,000. Doesn't it puzzle you, just a little, as to why a $218,000 educated grown man possesses inadequate tools to resolve adult issues?

matthewmhunter
matthewmhunter

@CarlLegg @ShawnPischke  Martin is a terrible example of how to deal with these issues, and would in almost any other job result in being fired for the way he handled this and justifiably so.  No other companies have policies that stipulate the best way for an adult to address bullying or workplace conflict is by running away, abandoning your job and then airing your grievances to the media rather than utilizing the internal mechanisms of the organization designed to address such grievances. Marin ran and hid as fast as his urine soaked legs would carry him and the way he handled this would get most others fired from their job. Incognito was wrong, but Martin was wrong in how he handled it.


CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@WilliamCrosshahaha. Good one. That's the mark of a real man -- someone who has the ability to crush you in one move (Martin), but chooses to be gentle and kind.

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@Voiceover310 Based on what we know (which isn't much), yes,this is mostly on Incognito for being such a jerk, and possibly on the front-office and coaching staff. Until we learn more, that's who's at "fault".

matthewmhunter
matthewmhunter

@Mathonwy @MarkDeRosa  fine, since this is a work place,  how many companies have policies that stipulate the best way for an adult to address bullying or workplace conflicts is by running away, abandoning your job and then airing your grievances to the media rather than utilizing the internal mechanisms of the organization designed to address such grievances? None, exactly. You have no point. Mr. Martin was hired to play football, not go on a urine soaked temper tantrum

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@Chums41   "Doesn't it puzzle you why a grown man possesses inadequate tools to resolve adult issues?"

Huh? Martin RESOLVED the issue. Your bias is so thick that you can't see that. Because you don't agree with Martin's resolution of this workplace issue, you dismiss his actions. Pathetic. 

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@matthewmhunter

"and would in almost any other job result in being fired for the way he handled this"  


What planet have you been living on? The remedies for harassment and bullying in the workplace are well-known, and they are the exact OPPOSITE of what you've just written. Nobody fires the victim -- you fire the perp.


Martin left the organization, just like anyone can leave a repressive workplace and spoke publicly about it. If you don't agree with that decision, go POUND SAND. Martin was in the right, and continues to be on the right side of workplace ethics and morality.

salvaje50
salvaje50

@matthewmhunter@Mathonwy@MarkDeRosa Martin's agent let Jeff Ireland (The Dolphins GM at the time) know about the bullying.  Ireland basically told him that martin had to man up and punch the guy and take care of it himself.  So martin went through the proper channels but those same channels let him down and wouldn't help him.