Posted January 20, 2014

Report: NFL eyeing proposal to abolish extra points

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There could be a day where the extra point after a touchdown in the NFL is a thing of the past. (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

The extra point could become a thing of the past. (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

The NFL is considering making changes to the extra point after touchdowns, reports NFL.com.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told the NFL Network that the Competition Committee might eventually get rid of extra points in favor of a revised scoring system.

“The extra point is almost automatic,” Goodell said. “I believe we had five missed extra points this year out of 1,200 some odd. So it’s a very small fraction of the play, and you want to add excitement with every play.

“There’s one proposal in particular that I’ve heard about. It’s automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six.”

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109 comments
BrandonConway
BrandonConway

Here's how you make the extra point/2-pt conversion more exciting:


1. If you decide to kick, the ball is placed on the 17 yard line (with the kick being 35 yards from the 25).

2. Extra point kicks and 2-pt conversions can be returned by the defensive team to the other endzone for 2-pts.

Can you imagine how stressful/important an extra point kick from 35 yards out would be in a game just tied up by a TD at the end of regulation when you not only have a greater chance to miss, but if it's blocked and returned you could actually lose the game?
To me this is the best balance of keeping the traditional play alive but with modifications to improve competitive play and fan interest.

RaymondSmith
RaymondSmith

They should keep the XP and dump goodell. 

StephenRohrbeck
StephenRohrbeck

Ok everybody.....it's just a rumor about a proposal in the rules committee. For this change to happen here is the process: First, the committee would have to decide to accept the proposal for discussion in a future rules committee meeting during the discussion of new business at the next rules committee meeting . If they accepted it for discussion,  they would decide they need more info and ask for people to gather info for the next meeting. At the next meeting, they would look at the info gathered, discuss it, then vote to add it to the final list of possible rules changes to take before all of the owners, vote no and strike it down,  or table for further discussion. Then, they would finalize the list of potential changes, again using yes, no, or table. Only after all of this would a final list of potential rule changes be brought before the owners who would vote yes, no, or table. So really it is about 10,000 miles from happening. Maybe everyone should take a Xanax and relax on a slow news day. Y'all sound Jets fans at the draft. Wailing and screaming about everything. This will never happen. The actual change would probably be two point conversion only. Now there's some drama for ya.

Joe R2
Joe R2

"My goal is to make it a 7 on 7 game with no linemen, kickers, punters, or special teams.  We also need an 18 game schedule, 2 teams in Europe, and a Super Bowl in London this decade...."


-Rog God

Joe R2
Joe R2

You suck Roger.  Leave the game alone...

RCH
RCH

I think this is an obvious move to bring more squares into play on your office pool. This way 5 and 5 or 9 and 2 still have a chance.

Dave36
Dave36

One of the dumbest ideas yet. I bet 95% of fans agree and I bet Goodell has never even played football or any other competitive sport.

rockferd
rockferd

Goodell is tone deaf. The NFL is unwatchable because of too many reviews, rules that are contrary to what anyone was ever taught about the game, and Goodell's  insistence on abolishing contact.  


Frankly, I put games on the tube more to get my wife out of the house than to actually watch them.   Hurry up Opening Day and the NBA Playoffs!

Listening
Listening

Extra point attempts have been critical in so many games that I can NOT believe the NFL is considering this crap.  It's part of the game.  Take it away and you might as well go back to playing rugby.  This is STUPID!!!!!!!

Bucky182
Bucky182

There has got to be a way to incorporate some aspect of Tecmo Super Bowl or NFL Blitz into these rule changes.

dudedadesq
dudedadesq

This is getting silly.  How about if you had a concussion, you can play the next week, but you where a yellow jersey and flags to you can't be hit or tackled...

dudedadesq
dudedadesq

Might as well get rid of the extra point since they've gotten rid of the kick-off return...it's almost as automatic that the kick-off will go in the end zone for a touchback.


Here's an idea....leave it alone and work on the horrible officiating....that gets worse every season...and make the replay system like it is in college...when you have the guy who watches the replay the same guy who called the play, it's a bit biased....

mister_adrian
mister_adrian

After getting 6 points for the touchdown, give the scoring team three options:


1)  Kick it from the 2 for 1 point.

2)  Score it from the 2 for 2 points.

3)  Take 0 points, and leave it at the 2 for the other team to take over right there.

Brandon Gutierrez
Brandon Gutierrez

This has nothing to do with making the game more "exciting", it has everything to do with making more time to sell add space.  With the automatic seven points and the possibility of loosing a point if an extra point is attempted, coaches will only go for an extra point under the same circumstances two point conversions are attempted today.

ScottHoward
ScottHoward

I immediately fast forward after a TD right on through to the opposing team taking the next snap at the 20.   What is the point of extra points of kickoffs?

Kopernicus1967
Kopernicus1967

Get rid of the extra point AND the two-point conversion.


Get rid of the onside kick.


You score by kicking field goals and touchdowns and you have to give up possession after a score.  That simplifies and streamlines the game.


Also, I despise when players signal first down possession after a fumble even though they have no idea who has the ball.  It should be a penalty to signal possession before the referees.

badcyclist1
badcyclist1

Why not just take away the 1-point kick and make teams go for two?  Or, if you want to speed up the game, only allow PATs (two pointers only) during the fourth quarter.


Asking teams to risk one point to gain an extra point seems lame to me. 

Ken P
Ken P

What the fans care about:

1) Teams with .500 records or worse making the playoffs
2) Obviously wrong penalty calls allowed to stand because the play isn't reviewable or because the referee doesn't see what the fans see on instant replay
3) Ordinary fans not able to see games because of sky high ticket prices

What the owners (through Goodell) care about:
1) "We need more teams in the playoffs!"
2) "Let's put a team in London!"
3) "Let's get rid of the extra point!"

The owners really have their finger on the pulse of the game.

jrscott0262
jrscott0262

The more Goodell talks, the less I want to watch football.  I hope the next commish simply rolls back everything this guy has had a hand in changing.  Worst commissioner ever...

espnrefugee0218
espnrefugee0218

Rule Changes if I were commish:

Make all players sign a waiver stating you wont sue the NFL - Reinstate Defense

1 game Preseason. 


If the ball goes through the upright on Kickoffs- opposing team gets the ball at the 10 (we need to reward that )


PAT field goal must be kicked by person who scored the TD...(not the qb) the guy in the endzone 


Thursday games only happen off bi-weeks


No more London Games....not 1 damn more 




Blinker
Blinker

I'm soooo sick of the NFL making modifications to the game.  Pretty soon they are going to have to find a new name for the sport because it will not be football anymore.....

rpbncb
rpbncb

Why not close the goal posts a couple of feet in on both sides. Make a FG as well as the extra point tougher to get. I mean, I've seen xtra pts and FG's just inside the goal posts. This would make accuracy an important part of the game. Have to think twice about an easy FG.

benjamin.crayton.hanson
benjamin.crayton.hanson

7 points is automatic. Gooddell talks about the 2-pt conversion being turned into a +/- 1-pt conversion. Instead, the Defense should get the 1-pt if the run/pass is stopped.

kcfield
kcfield

I think Goodell is messing with something sacred to the game. If he wants to make the extra point less automatic, then move it back five yards.

Disbott3000
Disbott3000

This is stupid. Football is quite exciting enough as it is. Leave the game alone!

PhillipJacobs
PhillipJacobs

PENALTIES  , Thats  what  they  need  to  focus  on....FIRST....Pass  interference  , ITS  OUTRAGEOUS  as  is......adopt  the  15  yard  and  a  1st  down  like  in  college.....SECOND , False  starts  by  the  O-line....Let  the  play  continue  and  give  the  Defense  a  right  to  refuse  or  take  the  play....You  could have  a  fumble , INT  or  a  sack  with  big  yards  lost  on  the  play....And  EVERY  PLAY  IS  REVIEWABLE......The  NOT  FUMBLE  that  was  clearly  a  fumble  in  the  Seahawk  V  49ers  should  ALWAYS  BE  REVIEWABLE......If  Seattle  didnt  fumble  on  the  following  play  people  would  be  FUMING  over  that  forever.....

ApolloOne
ApolloOne

Maybe Goodell should head up NASCAR. They're always changing things.

PhillipJacobs
PhillipJacobs

NNNNOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!  MAYBE  At  the  very  worst  move  the  extra  point  back  a  bit  so  its  a  longer  kick,,,but  otherwise  LEAVE  IT  ALONE.... 

AF Whigs
AF Whigs

Make it like rugby where you have to kick the EP from where ever the ball crossed the goal line, and move it back to maybe the 10 or 15 yard line. 


The problem is not the extra point play.  The problem is that Goodell obviously has too much time on his hands and wants to keep fiddling with key parts of the game.  Let's not reinvent anything.  Make the EP tougher?  Fine.  Replace it with something else?  No thanks!

WesVaughn
WesVaughn

Moving the extra point attempt to the 35 yard line makes better sense to me. 

John87
John87

Might as well.  It's not football anymore anyway.  They've screwed their own sport. 

NickStl
NickStl

@Brandon Gutierrez You are right that it doesn't really make the game more interesting, but at least most of the time we won't be bothered with boring extra point attempts.

Joe R2
Joe R2

@ScottHoward 


You might enjoy the 7 on 7 flag football coming up in the next few years...

Listening
Listening

@ScottHoward

It's part of the game.  It ALWAYS has been.  If you can't appreciate that then don't watch..... 

Brandon Gutierrez
Brandon Gutierrez

@Kopernicus1967 Streamlining the game just means you watch more commercials. The TV block is already reserved; you think they are going to give you more action with the extra time?  The NFL is about protecting its investments and maximizing profits.  They will continue to push on the consumer (us) until it starts to have a negative impact on their bottom line.  

Paul60
Paul60

@Ken P Yes KenP, esp that team in London (or Mexico City).  Stop listening to "marketing consultants" about this one!


I would also add having even MORE parity.  The NFL has more than any other league, but still some franchises have been down for so long it's pathetic.

GregRowe
GregRowe

@benjamin.crayton.hansonThat's an excellent idea. I would like to see a change to the points awarded a defense on a safety. Arguably the rarest scoring play in football and it only counts for two points? How about 3 or even 4?

Kopernicus1967
Kopernicus1967

@PhillipJacobs I'm going to play devil's advocate for your point.


In an NFL playoff game, with under thirty seconds to go, opposing QB unloads a bomb from his 45 yard line.  Your a safety covering the receiver running the deep route.  You know he is going to catch it on your 10 yard line.


Obviously you choose to take the penalty you suggest.  Ball on your 40 with first down with less time to play vs. the ball on your 10 (or less) with first down.


In college these plays would be more rare given the talent.

Brandon Gutierrez
Brandon Gutierrez

@NickStl @Brandon Gutierrez They will just fill the extra time with commercials; the block of air is already reserved.  Six televised games a week, 17 weeks, assume this frees up time for three commercials (probably conservative), $100k per commercial (sunday night slots go for $500k), makes for 30.6 M in add revenue a year.  This doesn't even account for the post season.


I would rather watch a boring field goal instead of more adds.