Posted December 06, 2013

Report: Mariners make Robinson Cano nine-year, $225 million contract offer

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Will the Mariners give Robinson Cano the contract he wants? (Al Messerschmidt/Getty Images)

Will the Mariners give Robinson Cano the contract he wants? (Al Messerschmidt/Getty Images)

The Seattle Mariners have made free agent second baseman Robinson Cano a contract offer, Fox Sports’ Ken Rosenthal reported Thursday.

The Mariners have become “major” players for Cano over the past few days, but it remains to be seen if they will give in to Cano’s reported demands of $230 million to $240 million over the length of the contract. Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports their offer is for $225 million over nine years, at $25 million per.

Earlier this week, the New York Yankees reportedly drew a hard line in their contract negotiations with Cano, saying they wouldn’t give him a contract in the neighborhood of $200 million. Their ceiling looked to be around seven years and $175 million, according to the report from Yahoo Sports’ Jeff Passan.

According to recent reports, Cano has been seeking a nine-year, $252 million contract with a vesting option for a 10th year at $28 million. The Mariners and Washington Nationals were expected to be the most serious challenge to the Yankees to retain Cano if either decided to get involved in the discussions.


51 comments
WertheimJ
WertheimJ

This chaotic world of baseball free agency has gotten totally out of hand.


It is the rare baseball position player who is as effective after the age of 35 as he was between the ages of 25 and 35. Yet for almost as long as I can remember, baseball teams have continued to shell out tens (and sometimes hundreds) of millions of dollars in contracts that extend into a player’s twilight years.


Perhaps the teams figure that rather than pay $40 million for the services of a player at age 31, they would prefer to pay him $20 million now, and then another $20 million ten years from now, even though they know that at 40, that $20 million is almost completely wasted. Do the teams put that $20 million in the bank like an IRA, drawing interest in anticipation of paying it out in seven years? They should. The player probably knows when he’s 38 that he’s nothing more than an expensive albatross draining valuable money from the team that could and should be used to pay more productive players, but why should they do anything differently as long as they get paid to sit?


To me, the story of A-Rod isn’t just a story about PEDs. The man signed a 10-year contract extension that pays him the GNP of Somalia every year into his 40s. He sucks now, and the Yankees have to keep paying him when he will suck even more. What a waste of money. But it’s the new norm.


Robinson Cano is 31 years old. He is a great player. Five time all-star. He is seeking a 10-year contract, something in the $25-million a year range. Yes, he was worth $25 million in 2013. He will probably be worth that amount in 2014, 2015 and 2016. But will he be worth that in 2023, when he’s 41? Absolutely not. Players that age are destined to spend their time shuffling between the disabled list, the bench, the DH role (if playing in the American League), and the occasional stint in the field. A future superstar-sized paycheck for the services of a man destined to be an injury-prone utility backup doesn’t exactly make business sense.


So, in 2023 the team that signs Robinson Cano will pay him $25 million. He will be a part-time player then, perhaps a designated hitter, part time fielder. A twenty-something pitcher with a 95-plus fastball will blow him away at the plate as Cano’s reflexes diminish. That $25 million should have been used to help keep the team competitive, but because back in 2013 the team decided to pay again in 2023 for something they already paid for in 2014, the team (and its fans) suffers. As long as he shows up in the locker (or the orthopedist’s office), he gets paid.


The solution requires owners and agents to exercise common sense. Agents and their clients need to acknowledge they are unworthy of long term contracts that extend past the age of 35. Owners and general managers need to stop allowing agents to extort them to pay players for years in which they are destined to become less and less productive. In this age of statistical analysis that measures a player’s performance in day home game v. night away game, lefty v. righty, curve ball v. splitter v. fastball, high swing v. low swing, foul ball v. swinging strike v. take on the first pitch v. a 3-2 count, temperature above or below 72 degrees, teams with white uniforms v. grey, leap year v. odd-numbered year, it should be easy to spot a downward trend when they see it. To gamble on a player’s value ten years from now is a losing bet.


If a player is still great at 36, give him a 2-year contract. If he is still good at 38, give him another 2-year contract. If he is still able to walk at age 40, give him a 1-year contract and a new Maserati. But to sign a player to a contract at the height of his career that pays him when he is way past his prime is just ridiculous. 

RuKdingMe
RuKdingMe

As a Red Sox fan, I would love to see Cano leave the Yankees, who will have effectively traded an every day playing all star (Cano) for an injury prone, sub-.300 hitting base stealer with a below par on-base % (who truly isn't much of an upgrade over Gardner who was already on their roster).  Prediction:  whoever the Red Sox play in center next year will outperform Ellsbury in all areas except base stealing.


And if the Yankees keep Cano, they will cement their 3rd (or worse) standing in the division by perpetuating the error of overpaying aging stars (ARod, Sabathia, Texiera, McCann, Ellsbury, Cano) who can't maintain their production or stay on the field as they age.


This is all AWESOME!



JoseFranco
JoseFranco

It's not about money when you've already earned millions, it's about integrity and being happy.  Only Robinson Cano knows what his ideal quality of life on a major league baseball field would be.  How we post on these blogs tell readers more about the writer than about Cano.  I like Cano a lot.  But I like the Yankees more.  Gluttony by any player will hurt the long term success of the franchise.  Again only Cano knows!

sportsGuy12
sportsGuy12

if he wants that ridiculos contract, the Yankees should let him walk

Brother Maynard
Brother Maynard

A 7 yr offer at $25M to stay in the Yankees spotlight with a perennial chance at playoffs and endorsements -vs- a 9yr offer at $28M to focus on his personal stats in Seattle since playoffs are a pipedream there. Decisions,decisions...

DEJ1948
DEJ1948

Over the past 10 seasons, Seattle's attendance has dropped from 3.2 to 1.7 million.  That's nearly a 50% slice off the top line.  Point being, the team desperately needs to put butts in the seats.  Cano will do that.  What he will also do is add some offense to a team that's begging for anything that even resembles offense.  Not only would he bring his own production to the table but he'd also protect others in the line-up by virtue of his presence.  As long as the M's don't go overboard in either years or dollars, this would be a very smart and well-timed acquisition.  

Bazelope
Bazelope

Who is Robinson Cano again????

Willmac7496
Willmac7496

If Cano leaves and the yankees go get choo, they would have ellsbury, gardner, soriano, choo, ichiro, and wells (probably will be cut).  The yankees might consider moving soriano back to second base.  Food for thought, because that's a crowded outfield, and Soriano has done it.  If not, they'll get chop, trade gardner, and then get infante 

DanaBunner
DanaBunner

Crazy deal for both sides.  M's long term prospects will be hurt by tying up so much cash into a middle infielder as he goes into his mid-30s.  Cano will be stuck on a non-playoff team for most or all of the rest of his career.  He will also get far less publicity in the Pacific Northwest and thus fewer endorsements, especially as his production tails off.  If he becomes a .290 hitting, 20 HR second baseman for Seattle, who is going to care about him?

klawkat
klawkat

Cano is a good hitter, a good fielder, but without leadership abilities or other intangibles that warrant such a big payday. Hope he likes spacious Seattle ballpark and isolated Northwest. Yanks have done well this off-season and should now concentrate on pitching, pitching and more pitching. 

WilyCoyoteSuperGenius
WilyCoyoteSuperGenius

If true this demonstrates why the Mariners are such a dysfunctional organization. Blowing $200 million on a second baseman is not a path to a championship. I guess every organization has to be burned by one of these idiotic contracts before they learn the lesson. Not a single player on the World Champion Red Sox was making over $16 million per season or over $100 million in total.

josebier
josebier

I know that all different sports media want to be the first to report stories like this one but lets stop with the gossip and rumours and report the real story when it actually becomes one...Is this the National Enquirer for sports?

MattBugaj
MattBugaj

Pujols, Werth, Hamilton, and Crawford have all illustrated the dangers of signing a 30+ player long term. The chips are not in his favor.

effeweall
effeweall

No speak english   +   no run fast   +   go 0-32 in postseason   <   $200 million contract

effeweall
effeweall

i hope they have a treadmill on the plane.  he can work on doing 90 foot sprints

Rico1
Rico1

@RuKdingMe You lose! You know nothing about baseball. Your chatter is all emotionally driven. Nothing of knowledge.

JoseFranco
JoseFranco

@psychsports I think it's simple economics.  Supply and demand of proven MLB players dictate these salaries.  Cano has his pros and cons as does Ellsbury.  Both are MLB proven offensive and defensive impact players.  Who would you reccommend in place of Ellsbury?  

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

What does this have to do with psychology?

Stop spamming your third-rate blog.  If you want advertising, BUY IT.

I wish SI would ban you for spamming.  Tired of seeing your posts.

JerryBelle
JerryBelle

@Brother Maynard With the lousy average Cano has in playoffs and World Series (.222 in 11 series and a woeful .136 in the '09 WS, maybe Cano wants a team that never makes it to the playoffs....lol.  Besides, from Cao's perspective those playoff numbers don't count in personal stats...it's all about the "ME" attitude..... 

train805
train805

Ask Adrian belter about his production in seattle.. He thought after hitting in pitcher friendly Chavez ravine, seattle would be comparable. Not even close. Seattle ends to bring their fences in an additional 20 feet from where they already brought them in. I love Robbie cano. Everything he does looks good on the diamond. But he ain't worth $200 mil anywhere. Especially in seattle. It's doubtful he'll hit over 20 home runs in a season again playing up there.

JerryBelle
JerryBelle

@DEJ1948 - Cano will NOT put any butts in any Seattle seats after the initial "let's go take a look at this guy named Cano" feeling passes.  One or two looks at his strikeouts, and lack of hustle down the line and Seattle fans will be in a full revolt.  Same reason you don't see a lot of uniforms worn by fans at Yankee Stadium; he's not an icon.


Michael10
Michael10

I think he has something to do with an impending shipwreck...

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

Then again, he can sit at home in October and count his money.  

It seems that the ballplayers' "I want to win!" stuff is mainly for the fans.  To them -- and I've heard a number of ex-pro-athletes talk about this on the radio -- it's about the money.

Jai2
Jai2

You think Ellsbury is a good deal? He has one good year and has been injured ever since. Only reason he played through it this year is because it was a contract year

dei1c3
dei1c3

@josebier Totally agree.  As far as I am concerned, Twitter and other social media was the nail in the coffin of real journalism (which had been dying a slow death for decades).  Being first is all that matters now.  If you're right...you broke a story!  If you're wrong...no big whoop.

Jai2
Jai2

Yet you like the 21 million a year for always injured Ells?

WestcoastMD
WestcoastMD

@effeweall You should be ashamed of yourself. I am sure you are fully capable of making a sports-related comment without being a racist a-hole.

klawkat
klawkat

@effeweall


You can make your points without the racist inflections and tone. Of course, maybe you are just living up to your 'handle'. 

oasis1994
oasis1994

@effeweall 

haha


I can't wait till he turns them down and ends up with 80 million since no one wants to sign him. It is sad when one says only 80 million. 

UCLA'69'72'
UCLA'69'72'

@MidwestGolfFan

I don't love people posting their blogs in the comments section, but I have now seen you get angry at psychsports multiple times for his posts. I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to offer his take. Thats what we're all doing here. He's not trying to sell us on a job that pays $5000 a week or a pill that will revolutionize our sex lives, he's only trying to send us to a website with his take on sports. To be honest, I'm more tired of angry insecure sports fans like yourself, than of people like him just trying to get people to read their blog. It takes time and effort to do what he's doing. But small insecure people like you are always the first to attack, but never the first to compliment!

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

Racist?  Cano's been in the USA for over a decade, and his English skills are still spotty.


Amazing.  This kind of behavior is tolerated for people who come to OUR country and take OUR money, but is heartily condemned when when an American goes overseas to work, and doesn't learn the language.

Starstruck
Starstruck

@klawkat This is a sports forum where PC content is not necessary. Save your PC nonsense for your wife or gf.  

MontyStanford
MontyStanford

How is implying a man cant run fast racist or that he cant speak the language of the country he is trying to financially rape racist? Is Cano on a greencard or of legal status, if you want to get technical?

Michael10
Michael10

Don't think they ever spoke Navaho in New York or Seattle or DC or anywhere else Cano may end up working...

unless the D-Backs discover Paul Goldschmidt lays golden eggs in the offseason.

JeffAughey
JeffAughey

@MidwestGolfFan


OUR Money, last I looked MLB was a collection of private corporations.


OUR Country, seems to me that your post is not written in Navaho


Ingnorat racist butthole

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

People like you see racism everywhere.

FACT:  Cano lives in the US most of the year.

FACT:  CANO makes a fortune taking US money to play baseball.

FACT:  Cano apparently refuses to learn to speak good English.

FACT:  People like you call Americans living overseas, who don't "go native" (language, culture, customs, etc.) "racist."

I don't call it "racism."  I call it sanctimonious, phoney-baloney left-wing double standards.

train805
train805

He's not an American. He's Dominican. He lives here for 8-9 months a year, pays some taxes here, then goes home. He works here legally. I do think the globalization of baseball here in the USA is definitely hurting the fan base a bit though. Talk to Torii Hunter, and ask him why the RBI program is lacking. Off camera, he'll give you his real reasons.

WestcoastMD
WestcoastMD

@MidwestGolfFan Its absolutely racist. Being American doesn't begin and end with your grasp of the English language.

caledfwlch452
caledfwlch452

Financially rape? You're as dumb as you look.