Posted December 03, 2013

Report: USC assistant Ed Orgeron quits after not getting head coaching job

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Ed Orgeron lead the Trojans to five wins in seven games as an interim coach. (AP Photo/Don Ryan)

Ed Orgeron led the Trojans to six wins in eight games as an interim coach. (AP Photo/Don Ryan)

USC assistant Ed Orgeron resigned Monday, reportedly “outraged” that he did not receive the head coaching job, according to ESPN.com’s Brett McMurphy.

According to the report, offensive coordinator Clay Helton is expected to coach the bowl game.

Orgeron quit despite athletic director Pat Haden offering to make Orgeron an assistant head coach and one of the nation’s highest paid assistants.

USC hired Washington head coach Steve Sarkisian after he spent five seasons in Seattle.

MANDEL: USC makes questionable move by hiring Sarkisian

Orgeron was given the interim tag after Lane Kiffin was fired in September. He led the team to a 6-2 record and said we wanted a chance to coach the team on a full-time basis, even getting support from Kiffin.

“I want to be the head coach at USC,” Orgeron said two weeks ago. “I love being a head coach. I think that it’s something I’m able to do, and do well. And I want to be the head coach at USC when I get the chance. I think I can perform on a very high basis to do what the Trojan family wants me to do.”

USC finished with a 9-4 record this season, and Haden said last month that USC fans expressed support for Orgeron to become the new head coach.

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141 comments
dandogwood
dandogwood

Ed O is more a caveman type of coach. Skin robe raw leg of meat on his shoulder looking for a nice cave and some fire. Ed O is not a smart man. Nice guy hunts well eats well fights well. Just let others make the decisions and order Ed O around.

Blinker
Blinker

I know he is disappointed with USC not giving him the head coach job.  I wonder where he ends up now????

DMP
DMP

Sark kind of reminds me of Jeff Tedford at Cal -- great at going 5-0, 6-0 and getting ranked in the top 10 and then imploding and ending up 7-5.  If that works for USC, great!  Especially since I root for the Ducks and Cardinal.

RobertDelCarlo
RobertDelCarlo

Ed did the right thing...he's not a blockhead or stupid...just pragmatic! After all his years with SC and such a good job as the interim head coach, if not now then never. He want's to be a head coach...good for him.

dandogwood
dandogwood

Like I stated earlier that Eddie O is not very smart and basically dumb and a blockhead. Turns down over $1 million to return as a top paid assistant coach at USC in the limelight with no pressure on him.  Blockhead Ed is just dumb.

rob11751
rob11751

USC always had  high profile coaches, he really didn't have a chance for that position, he seems to be a sore head for quitting

dandogwood
dandogwood

Cement Head Eddie O is just not qualified to lead a top football program. Block head Eddie O is a great assistant and a good soldier just no worthy of being the general in charge of a program. Some coaches just do not possess the savvy to lead.

Cane87
Cane87

Just another way to crap on the University of Miami.  Not quite as bad as a four-loss team being ranked when we're not, but a slap in the face all the same.  

doublejtrain68
doublejtrain68

Orgeron did a great job in the interim, but he is sadly mistaken if he thinks he will have that kind of success year in and year out. He had his chance at Ole Miss, and failed miserably. Him being a big baby and quitting on the team before their bowl game shows his lack of maturity and professionalism. Haden offered him a deal to be the second-in-command and possibly the highest-paid assistant in the nation, which could have led to another head coaching opportunity in the near future, but it wasn't good enough for him. Sarkisian wasn't a glamour selection, but Orgeron could have stuck it out and worked with him. This crybaby B.S. may have cost him another shot somewhere. He'll probably be a position coach in the NFL somewhere now. 

Dude On A Mission
Dude On A Mission

I am not a USC fan in the least, however I think how institutions go about hiring head coaches really should be under the microscope here.

Clearly this is a political move by Pat Hayden (someone I personally would think might make a better selection because Hayden overcame a lot of obstacles to reach his heights at USC and in the NFL and as the AD at USC.).  I just think this political move was to put a younger face and a glitzier look to the program.  The irony I find is that you had Sarkisian and Kiffin on the same staff with Pete Carroll that put the schools program on probation from the post season for two years.  All three left USC only to have Kiffin leave the program as a severe disappointment to both Tennessee and USC.  

So what should people expect out of Sarkisian who bailed once a head coaching job became available and knowing of the impending damage to USC?

I personally expected a more well-rounded, grounded, and better selection from Pat Hayden, someone I have had great respect for over the years.  I just think he could not have made a worse selection here.

So, is it any wonder that Ed Orgeron is so upset to the point he felt he had to resign?  I think he should have shown great re-straint and taken a few days off and finish out the season, but he has a point.  He was steering the program back to a better place in terms of it's attitude.  Understandably they lost a big rivalry game to UCLA, nonetheless he did do a very good job under abnormal circumstances.

The precedent it sets is a bad one, it's more about the political points you pull and not how good of a football coach you are, and that is the fundamental problem in college football.  Certainly it shows up on a lot of levels of football, but college is by far the most politically driven and frankly that is the shortfall of the only sport that plays for the mythical championship year after year.  The point is that there are way better football coaches out there but they don't get the opportunities they deserve because maybe they lack the perception of some political pull to land top prospects and cultivate their talent.

Give Sarkisian credit for the good work he put in at USC previously and most recently Washington, the bottom line though is that there are better coaches that could have filled that void, and it's quite possible that USC let one of those guys go while setting themselves up for a future infraction or implosion of some sort.

One thing reigns true in politics and football.

Live by the sword, Die by the sword.


NebojsaTodorovic
NebojsaTodorovic

I see the flaws of what he did, but understand the logic.  After putting his blood in the game after Kiffin was let go, doing an awesome turnaround job, he'd always be the outsider in Sarkisian's administration.


He did miss his only chance to shine - smoke it in the Bowl game and let them see what they'd be missing.  He leaves on the loss to UCLA.

6marK6
6marK6

I did not think it should be either Sarkisian or Orgeron. Orgeron did a good job as an interim, but being the permanent man in charge of everything is something else. Sarkisian recruited well in Washington, as one should. But he sure did not come close to getting max out of those players. I think there were serious questions about Sarkisian's future at UW and whether he could move beyond where he was at. Just don't know why Haden felt compelled to move so fast on the hire. Sarkisian strikes me as a slightly more mature Lane Kiffin. Is wearing a visor and being an assistant under Carroll the only qualification Haden wants?

WHO*IS*ESPN
WHO*IS*ESPN

When he took over didn't Eddie say he was just happy to coach regardless what happened at season's end?  He should have gotten the chance since he did well. now he is a little sour grapes.  Can't see Steve showing the fire Ed did though.

stagger
stagger

In the immortal words of Fred Sanford: "You big dummy!" Way to screw up any other head coaching opportunities. Shows a complete lack of maturity, leadership and commitment. You know, vital components to being a successful head coach.

Cougarblue
Cougarblue

"even getting support from Kiffin." That might have been his first mistake. Kiffin is even less popular than a diagnosis of VD. Orgeron did not have s successful time at Old Miss and I'm sure his failure there had something to do with his not getting the job at SC. Regardless of who the interim was the players being able to undergo depressurization, after the tension Laney had them unde,r was going to going to spell improvement. The man made a big mistake by letting his vanity do the driving, he's not going to get a head job at a big time school, he's not going to be able to stay in LA nor make the "feelgood" cash that Haden as offering as an assistant anywhere else. Let's be honest, it was Laney's team, he decided on the recruits, he ran the fall and spring camps his way, he set up the play book, Orberon handed the players in an entirely opposite way that "Peter Principle Busted" Kiffin but the only example of how he would operate HIS program was what he did at Ole Miss and that was a disaster.

JohnHillman
JohnHillman

People are not getting the entire truth. Orgeron did not quit because he was not hired as head coach. He quit because he was not even interviewed as a POSSIBLE head coach. There is no guarantee the new coach would want him or keep him. Pat Haden really hired Sarkesian WITHOUT even giving Orgeron the courtesy of a simple interview.

Chilmonty
Chilmonty

USC Fans are learning what we found out the hard way at UT.

These guys are self centered and dishonest, be glad he wasn't hired as HC!

secdominates
secdominates

Orgeron has always been a scum bag...he proved it more when he hitched his wagon to Lane Kiffen, and really solidified it when he told all of the Tennessee recruits to not enroll in school after walking away from his commitments.  People eventually see through years of sketchy actions and he got what was coming to him. Couldn't have happened to a nicer pr!ck.   

Sportsblabber
Sportsblabber

Like a most USC fans I was swept away by Coach O -- until he made the 2013 Bruins look like the Chip Kelly Ducks.  SC was routed.  At home.  In their biggest rivalry game. 

Then he quits -- after saying for weeks how much he loves the program, how he'd love to be a part of it in any capacity, how he'll always be a Trojan at heart?!

 Something was off about him.  A little too rough around the edges.  Ultimately not polished and politic enough to satisfy the boosters and alumni.

cooldela1966
cooldela1966

I think this decision to pass over Orgeron was made by healthcare.gov.

Hendo
Hendo

USC.....hilarious.

Nils_Mateo
Nils_Mateo

Interesting move. 2 months to hire a guy who's break through season is 8-4 after 3 seasons of mediocrity. Good coaches can get better results with someone else's guys and that's what Orgeron did.

Helzyeah1
Helzyeah1

I supported Orgeron getting the job, and he has done an outstanding job of picking up the pieces. But be realistic - you don't get promoted when you lose both of your big rivalry games. The fact that Orgeron has apparently stormed off and quit before the bowl game actually sort of justifies Haden's decision to pass him over.

ruggerrick9
ruggerrick9

@rob11751 How is a coach that averaged less than 7 wins per year at Washington a "high profile coach"?

ruggerrick9
ruggerrick9

@dandogwood He won more Pac 12 games this year (6) than Sarkisian (5) despite only coaching 7 total games.  Sarkisian won an average of 6.8 games per year at Washington.  Have fun with that.

Voiceover310
Voiceover310

@stagger He will get another job without even having to lift a finger. He won games when Kiffin Couldn't,he at the very least brought a little respect back to USC in a disastrous season. Of course the man is outraged that he wasn't given a shot. He will be on the sidelines for another school next season without question. How does standing up for what you think is right show a "lack of maturity" How does winning games and bringing the team together show a "lack of leadership" how does staying onboard a sinking ship show a "lack of commitment"     ?????????

He did more than they could of hoped for this season and got a big slap in the face for it. 


bstewart.bears51
bstewart.bears51

@JohnHillman  His interview was coaching the team, a team that lost to UCLA and ND two times in the past two years.

HOFPufnstuf
HOFPufnstuf

@secdominates this guy nailed it.  Orgeron is a scumbag.   In missisippi he hired a bunch of former miami assistants who all resigned from miami under investigation.   He helped kiffin recruit then stole some of those guys.  Finally and worst of all, as people smelled kiffin vblood in the water, orgeron's defense lay down on the job, greasing the rails for him     the two of them , kiff and o are.punks.   Give sark a chance.

cooldela1966
cooldela1966

If you like your coach you can keep your coach.

Plainview
Plainview

@Nils_Mateo I don't know anything about the history, precedent, or track record of Orgeron, but I wouldn't hire him right away.  Sure he can coach, but can he recruit?  The players love him, but is that because he is too lax?  What does it say about him that he quit when he found out he didn't get the HC job?

From the tidbits I have read about Orgeron's period at the helm, I do not think I would hire him as head coach.

Sarkisian was a poor and premature decision, but if Orgeron is hired somewhere else as a head coach I do not think he will do well. 

We'll see in 3 seasons I guess, and I hope I have to eat my words. 

JohnHillman
JohnHillman

@Helzyeah1 He did not quit because someone else was hired. He quit because Haden did not grant the courtesy of an INTERVIEW. Haden will be looking for new coach in 2 years.

HOFPufnstuf
HOFPufnstuf

@ruggerrick9 @rob11751 washington record the year before sarkesian?  Oh and 12.  Sarkesians first year with them?  5-7.  the next years.  6, 6, 7,7,8 wins.  Took a dead.program, instantly revived it and left it healthy, continously improving and clean. The Guy has a track record of turnaround and success.    That gets national attention.

HOFPufnstuf
HOFPufnstuf

@ruggerrick9 @dandogwood coach dough beat cal, utah and colorado.   Lost both rivalry games.   Your use of sample size, coach o having 6, when he coached one year is pretty dumb.   Like saying you're as good a hitter as albert pujols because you both have won the same amount of triple crowns...zero.   

HOFPufnstuf
HOFPufnstuf

@ruggerrick9 @doublejtrain68 meaning what?   Orgeron wasn't playing in the sec.   He was coaching.   His record was 14 and 25 .  Ole miss was 7 and 5 this year in the same sec.    

6marK6
6marK6

@Voiceover310 @stagger I think Orgeron mostly exposed just how bad a coach Kiffin was. SC has been very talented, they might have been short on depth, but they were talented. Orgeron got something out of that talent where Kiffin could not. Don't think it makes Orgeron a great coach though, just not a bad one. That being said, Sarkisian is probably below that. 

Huskerstildeath
Huskerstildeath

@bstewart.bears51 @JohnHillman and they also beat Stanford, and he turned the team around quite well. A simple interview was the least they could had done to him. Sarks could use Orgeron in his team. He can recruit like no one's business. Anyways, I expect some team will snatch him up.

CALI_DREAMING
CALI_DREAMING

@Plainview @Nils_Mateo 

I feel the same way, but I look back on my email to former AD, Mike Garrett when he hired Pete. I was pissed off. But that also shows why I am not an AD.

BobRayTalbot
BobRayTalbot

@Plainview @Nils_Mateo Orgeron was a head coach at Ole Miss and was fired after three seasons because of a poor record.  He, actually, is a very good recruiter.  That is one of his best points as a coach.  My opinion is that Ole Miss wasn't a good fit for him. But I also think that he coaches with a lot of emotion, which is good; but it can also burn out over the long haul. A head coach has to be somewhat cerebral as well, and Orgeron, I don't believe, has that quality.

HOFPufnstuf
HOFPufnstuf

@ruggerrick9 @doublejtrain68 his record got worse over 3 years in ole miss.  Finished oh for 8 in conference play.  Never beat rival missisippi state.   This guy gets jobs based on recruiting magic which is a sleazy game to begin with.   Through the mush in his mouth he lies harder and bribes quieter.