Posted November 25, 2013

Report: Police warned accuser about pursuing Jameis Winston sexual assault case

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Jameis Winston's name was linked to a year-old sexual battery case. (Streeter Lecka/Getty Images)

Jameis Winston’s name was linked to a year-old sexual battery case. (Streeter Lecka/Getty Images)

A Tallahassee detective allegedly told an accuser’s attorney that Tallahassee is a “big football town” and her client’s life could “be made miserable” if she pursued a sexual assault case against Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston, reports Matt Baker of Tampa Bay Times.

Those accusations were made by the alleged victim’s family in a statement released to the newspaper Wednesday. On Tuesday, the Tallahassee Democrat reported that the case had been dropped when the accuser had “changed her mind” about pursuing the charges.

An attorney for Winston denied the reported allegations against his client after they emerged last week.

The alleged victim’s family, according to the statement, was shocked to hear that Winston’s attorney was made aware of the case as early as February. The statement also alleges that detectives “specifically refused to collect Winston’s DNA or interview Winston’s roommate who witnessed the attack.”

SI WIRE: Jameis Winston’s attorney: Florida State QB and accuser had consensual sex

Winston has not been questioned by the police. His status with the team reportedly has not changed since the story broke last week.

More from the family’s statement to the Times (which can be viewed in full here):

…In early January, when the victim identified the perpetrator as Jameis Winston, the family grew concerned that she would be targeted on campus.

We requested assistance from an attorney friend to interact with law enforcement on the victim’s behalf. When the attorney contacted Detective (Scott) Angulo immediately after Winston was identified, Detective Angulo told the attorney that Tallahassee was a big football town and the victim needs to think long and hard before proceeding against him because she will be raked over the coals and her life will be made miserable…

It was never the intent of the victim or the family for this to become public. The victim was trying to move on with her life which has now been turned upside down once again. We have not been the source of any information prior to this release; there was no benefit in that.

Report: DNA report connects Jameis Winston to accuser


115 comments
thedrrjp
thedrrjp

In the official police report (http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3565805/HTE_12-32758.pdf), the victim described her attacker as:

between 5'9" & 5'11"                   Winston is 6'4"
weighing 240 lbs                         Winston weighed 228
hair: up to 1/2" straight                Winston had long curly hair
assailant: UNKNOWN                 Winston is well known
complexion: DARK                     "Compared to who? George Hamilton?"
build: muscular                           "Well, at least we know it was not FSU's kicker"
general appearance: casual       "Was that business casual?" "A casual physical sexual assault?"
Demeanor: Polite                        "Excuse me, Miss.  Would it be OK to have sexual gratification with you?"

The victim reported that "Sexual gratification" was the reason for the alleged sexual assault. That also narrows it down. I'm sure that all the guys who watched the "Victoria's Secret Fashion Show" on CBS did so only to keep current with the lingerie market.

Other than "being a polite, dark-skinned athlete," would any of this description make Winston stand out in a police line-up, especially when the perp is described as being UNKNOWN, with physical characteristics that don't match Winston?

This sure seems like a crime in search of someone famous to charge with.

VOICE_OF_REASON
VOICE_OF_REASON

A majority of the people posting on here seem to be coming to the conclusion that Jameis Winston committed rape...What is this based on??  The mere fact that his DNA showed up in a girl's panties?  Newsflash: If you are a male, and have had sex with a female, your DNA has been in panties... Ridiculous to jump to conclusions based on that alone.  I'm not saying whether a sexual assault did or didn't occur; however, I am saying that nobody on here (including myself) knows all of the facts.  Let the process play out and then make your conclusions. To say Mr. Winston is a monster, deserves to be thrown off the team, locked in jail, etc. based off what we know is disgraceful and outright stupid.  

bskott
bskott

I'm not ready (or in a position) to judge on this case. But if someone is accused of something, why is it shocking that their lawyer was made aware of the charge? Isn't telling someone what they are charged with part of the process?

dandreajack162
dandreajack162

The whole investigation sounds messed up. Jameis should be kicked off the team.

CoupeDeBill
CoupeDeBill

Disgusting, Florida needs to get their ducks in a row, the entire state is as corrupt as hell.  Florida State needs to remove this fella from the team with the speed of light.  As for Tallahassee's law enforcement, they have none.

dandogwood
dandogwood

If the girl was black let it go. If a white girl was attacked  then prosecute Winston.

ucla2k3
ucla2k3

Prior to all of this coming out, I was a Winston fan and wanted him to win the Heisman. Now, I'm sick to my stomach seeing how this is unfolding. Not only is Florida State University fostering a culture of rape but the local police department is in on it as well. FSU alums should be ashamed of their alma mater and how the school is handling this case. And this is the only one we know of. Makes you wonder how many other cases are out there. This is worthy of the FBI taking a look at FSU and the Tallahassee PD.

JasonFlook
JasonFlook

Here is where I have a problem. This was before the spring game, before the baseball season, if this happened when it happened. How did anyone know that she would be having problems with him? Did the cop know of him? Did she know of him? Too many unanswered questions.


I guess we will know soon enough, but the timing, the wrong physical description, and now this makes me think this COULD be a money grab.

Chris10
Chris10

Aaaaaaand cue the money grab lawsuit

Unforgiven_3
Unforgiven_3

Damn, look at the boy! Only way he could get any is to rape someone!

VA_BOY_11
VA_BOY_11

There is no evidence from when it was investigated the first time. I don't see any "new" evidence this time, just allegations. I don't see how the girl even has a case. But like i said , IF Winston is guilty then he deserves to go to prison!.  But in my opinion allegations are not evidence and that alone is enough to close the case.

dandogwood
dandogwood

Well obviously the girl was black and her family has no money. No detective in America can say that to any white family's child and get away with it.  If the girl was assaulted then proceed with the laws of Florida and prosecute Winston to the full extent of the law and through him out of school.

GeraldD.Tinnon
GeraldD.Tinnon

How long will the cover-up last? Who all will be involved? 

VA_BOY_11
VA_BOY_11

1 thing anyone needs when you go to court is EVIDENCE! Which she does not have. You can say what you want about anybody, but if you don't have evidence you have nothing. I am a FSU fan and I will be the first to say that "IF" he is guilty then throw the book at him.......but all I see is allegations which is not evidence . #CaseClosed

Fifilo
Fifilo

Redneck cops, redneck town.

Anaximenes1
Anaximenes1

don't mess with fsu players in tallahassee---they got the police in their pocket----you'll get messed up good

NoQNoSuperBowl
NoQNoSuperBowl

A lot of people jumping to rash conclusions on here about a sexual assault that may or may not have happened. Victims and their families have been known to offer up a lot of inaccurate information. We may have a rape here or we may have mistaken identity or we may have a gold digger. Passing judgment at this point seems pretty dumb. 

Marcius E. Chester
Marcius E. Chester

Jameis Winston wouldn't have this problem if kept his p---s in his pants. Now he going to be kicked out of college, and be registered as a sex affender.

clt0002
clt0002

Although I can't say they attempted a cover up, aren't they somewhat right about what they told her? Tallahassee is an insane football town. Winston was their star and people probably view him as a god around there. Unfortunately in cases like this, there are plenty of people who will vilify the alleged victim and call her all sort of names. Maybe they wanted her to understand the magnitude of what would follow, although they certainly have a duty to seek justice. This is by no means attacking the victim. (If she was assaulted in any way, I hope the [insert whatever word you will] is caught and punished). 

SteveLatham
SteveLatham

@VOICE_OF_REASON Is it stupid to allow a jury to decide who they believe ... the accuser went to a hospital immediately and reported it as rape ... the fact that she can't remember the exact height and weight of the individual is not that uncommon.  I don't know what happened, but typically, if you're accused of this sort of crime and the accuser is quick to report, an arrest is made so that a jury, or a judge, with all the evidence can decide ...  your position is not one of reason but one of wild conjecture and posturing ...

SteveLatham
SteveLatham

@dandreajack162 He should probably be suspended until the case is resolved ... of course, this should have happened last year but the local popo pushed it under the rug and, according to the accuser, threatened them ... It would be resolved by now if the process had gone as normal in these cases.  The fact that someone felt the need to cover it up and JW hasn't said anything to address the issue does imply guilt in my mind.   Just my opinion ... JW should come out and defend himself if he's innocent ... if not, let a jury decide on the evidence

bskott
bskott

@ScottLloydRoss And if it later turns out it was consensual, but after she realized he just wanted sex and wasn't going to have a relationship with her that she decided it was rape, will you accept having yourself shot in the head for being responsible for an innocent man's death?

bskott
bskott

@ucla2k3 Wow, you don't even now all the facts.

And as far as the police telling her that her life would be miserable, were they trying to get her to drop it, or were they just accurately warning her that it would make her life miserable, even if it's the right thing to do? It may not be just, but it is entirely true that if her name gets out there and Winston is charged and can't play then her life will be made miserable by FSU fans. I hardly blame the police for being honest.

VOICE_OF_REASON
VOICE_OF_REASON

@VA_BOY_11 **New evidence = DNA match since test was not taken the first time.  However, that does not mean the sex was not consensual. 

Silence Dogood
Silence Dogood

@VA_BOY_11 I agree, don't interview the witness, don't collect DNA samples and then close the case because you have no evidence.  The only reason to remind the accuser that Winston is loved football player is to silencer...that is the cherry on top.

dandreajack162
dandreajack162

@GaryNargiz Uh yeah.. You know Winston's criminal attorney went to law school at UF? So there goes your conspiracy theory..

CarlosKeith
CarlosKeith

@Fifilo What the family says the cops told them is practically word for word what I predicted happened.  So predictable. 

CarlosKeith
CarlosKeith

@NoQNoSuperBowl Uh, that's the problem.  At this point, this should have progressed.  It's been almost a year and we are not finding out if he is guilty.

phionesymphony
phionesymphony

@NoQNoSuperBowl This is not merely your typical "inaccurate information" from "victims and their families", but a direct account of a conversation a lawyer said she had with a detective.  Lawyers might try to offer different ways of describing facts about their clients and what-not, but few of them would be willing to risk their own license to state something on the record of conversations they had with law enforcement officials.

Try to learn the difference.

phionesymphony
phionesymphony

@clt0002 It might be right, but it's not the "advice" a law enforcement official should give to an alleged victim of a crime.

StephenCurtis
StephenCurtis

@clt0002 yes they are right. That said thats not something a police guy should ever say. Thats wrong. in so many ways. The truth is rape sheild laws should protect her identity . The only way someone would know was her is if winston or the cops released it and thats illegal. Rape is never ok and a cop to talk a woman out of pursuing a case is just wrong and they should be fired and investigated. 

Ives
Ives

@clt0002 stop it, youre making too much sense for the conspiracy theorists!

craig1
craig1

@VOICE_OF_REASON @dandreajack162 And you are already ready to fall on a sword for the guy as well?  Funny how so many of you clowns rally in support when there is no reason to support him nor convict him yet.

KenKing
KenKing

@Silence Dogood @VA_BOY_11 I don't have all the  facts. However, if you read the Tampa Tribune, when the girl first reported the situation, she did not know a name, but described her assailant as a light skinned black man about 5'8" to 5'10". Winston is 6'4". that is missing the height by as much as 8 inches - about 16% off. If I am a cop, and talking to a lawyer without the victim present, I think i am going to tell the lawyer to make sure his client is completely aware of the ramifications of making the charge. She missed the height part by as much as 8 inches!! She didn't know the guys name. And she couldn't / wouldn't pick him out of a lineup of football players even though she claims she was sober during the attack, and was with a guy who was so obviously a football player it is not funny. I am not saying nothing happened. But if I am a cop or a DA, and the young lady is not in the room, I am going to frankly tell her attorney that this would be a great time to silently float away if she was not 100% sure.  That is not to say that no investigation would take place. Just that the best investigation has a galvanized witness.  It's only a matter of time until Gloria Alred flies into town, meaning that you can't walk anything back into the barn.

KenKing
KenKing

@phionesymphony @NoQNoSuperBowl The statement given to the Tampa Tribune was most certainly not written by an attorney, nor likely to have ever been reviewed by an attorney. So we have a situation where an interested party is making public accusations. I am not saying that there was no crime. However, the statement released to the press was absolutely from a victim's family and definitely NOT from the attorney.

clt0002
clt0002

@phionesymphony @clt0002 Yes, but maybe he was just being truthful. I don't think cops should do it. But maybe he's actually being honest about what could happen. 

clt0002
clt0002

@StephenCurtis @clt0002 That's certainly true, but somehow (rather sadly) these things always find a way of getting out. Of course, rape is never okay but maybe, just maybe the cop is being honest with her on that front. 

thedrrjp
thedrrjp

@craig1 @VOICE_OF_REASON @dandreajack162There are plenty of reasons to support him that have nothing to do with his role as the starting QB on a national championship team.  

 It's called, "Judging a person by his character." Something, liberals like you are incapable of doing.

Your voice would not be heard complaining about how the liberal media love to destroy the lives of good people like Zimmerman by making false statements, using false photos, doctoring 911 calls, creating new race categories (WHITE Hispanic) so that they could turn a clear-cut case of self-defense into a sinister, hate-crime and premeditated murder, going out of their way to find others who also have no problem lying about what they claim to see or hear because of their similar prejudices.

On the flip-side, you have parents calling the police, "racists," for arresting their son, claiming that "It's impossible for their sweet, little baby to have killed anyone," ignoring the fact that their teenage "baby" participated in a gang initiation that did just that.

When the media are not involved, the parents are the ones who decide not to press the issue if they care about protecting their daughter.

The storyline changed dramatically when the victim's parents decided to get involved - and that was as a direct result of media inquiries. If their daughter was not pressing charges, why would the parents expect the state to continue investigating the case?

The TPD officer was not telling the victim to drop the case because of the possible repercussions to her. He was warning her of the consequences of filing a sexual assault charge given the sketchy evidence and the celebrity status of football players. You think that charging a celebrity, let's say Jay-Z, would be any different regardless of the truth?

If her case was a slam-dunk, then it would have been filed in December eight months before Tally knew Jameis would be the starting QB and another two months before they knew just how far "into the stratosphere" he would go as a redshirt freshman.

There is no physical evidence that links Jameis to the injuries shown in the photos - meaning that he did not make them.  In addition, two eyewitnesses were with him at the time of the assault - meaning that Jameis was not the one with the victim.