Posted November 15, 2013

Report: Richie Incognito files grievance against Dolphins

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Richie Incognito had started all eight games this season with the Miami Dolphins. (Joel Auerbach/Getty Images)

Richie Incognito was indefinitely suspended by the Dolphins on Nov. 4. (Joel Auerbach/Getty Images)

Offensive tackle Richie Incognito has filed a non-football injury grievance against the Dolphins for his indefinite suspension, according to Chris Mortensen of ESPN.

The Dolphins suspended Incognito more than a week ago for conduct detrimental to the team following ESPN’s report that he used explicit language and racial slurs in voicemails to teammate Jonathan Martin. Incognito’s grievance argues this violates the collective bargaining agreement.

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The NFL is investigating Martin’s allegations that he left the team after long-term bullying and misconduct by Incognito and teammates.

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44 comments
thebigdawg3
thebigdawg3

Shocking to learn that Martin's parents specialize in workplace law!  Shocking.  Hmmmmm … how can we make more money?  Let's sue the NFL.  The next thing we'll be hearing is Martin was hazed during his meeting with the NFL investigator.  Jonathan Martin is the lowest of low life people.

thebigdawg3
thebigdawg3

Awesome move by Incognito.  Philbin, Ireland, Ross and that pu&&Y Martin are all a bunch of morons.  They are the real cause of this problem.  How do Philbin and Ireland still have jobs?  Answer, the owner is an idiot.

GoPSULions
GoPSULions

They want to suspend him w/o pay, so they are not obligated to any guaranteed $$.  If they simply cut him, they still must pay the guaranteed $$ and then allow another team to pick him up.  This way they are trying to save the $$ and avoid him going elsewhere this season.

OSU
OSU

I have seen players suspended for conduct for far less than what Incognito did.  Miami has every right to suspend him for up to 4 games (pending appeal).  Next, they have every right to cut him with pay.  I laugh at fans and players comments stating this incident is overblown and things really did not get out of hand.  Just the fact they are in the position now lets you things went to far.  If I was the owner, I let the the team know the next person who wants to throw his hand in with Incognito, can catch the same train out of town. 

JoseFlores
JoseFlores

As a dolphins fan. We need incognito. A player "such as Martin" should man up and deal with the bull. Quit being a sissy, quit being a quitter, therapy probably won't help. Your making tons of money to play the sport you've been playing for years and all of a sudden this is some new life changing incident that you have never been exposed to before? Get real. Im Hispanic myself and I feel like all races get picked on here and there. Martin is a crybaby pure and simple

RealJDSportsFan1
RealJDSportsFan1

This was predictable and not completely out of the question. If coaches told Incognito to toughen Martin up and he thinks he was doing just that, then why is the team now suspending him? I'm not necessarily defending him. I think what he did was wrong but it was foreseeable that he would file a grievance the way the story is shaking out. I wrote up an article about the best way to defend Incognito (legally) in the event that he is sued: http://jdsportsfan.wordpress.com/2013/11/07/defending-richie-incognito/

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Ban him for life. And for the next. A loathsome human being.

Oldtimeduffer
Oldtimeduffer

So apparently the foundation for the agreement is that the collective bargaining agreement authorizes bullying, threats, and harrassment.  Interesting.  You have to wonder if there is a dividing line - would murder of another player be protected by the collective bargaining agreemment as well?

TampaThunder
TampaThunder

Where do I file my grievance for having to read and listen to this crap day in and day out?

me1
me1

What people don't understand is he was suspended for "conduct detrimental to the team". Incognito can't win this. Conduct did occur. Detrimental to the team is a term that means "if I, the owner, don't like your behavior, I can tell you find a job elsewhere.

swidt
swidt

So Incognito is now whining about the way HE has been treated?  -Wonder what choice words he used in the official "grievance" he filed.

jbc123
jbc123

I guess we'll see who has the better lawyers. The Dolphins clearly would have asked theirs, prior to the suspension. If they told ownership it was OK, they should be fired when Incognito wins. My guess is that they suspended him just to be politically correct, if so, shut up and pay. 

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

He's lucky he's not in jail for sexual assault after touching a woman with a golf club, among other things he did to her.

Where was the Players Association when Martin was being harassed?  Oh, right.  "Boys will be boys."  

Unions always protect the lowest common denominator.  Incognito is proof positive.

Quite A Dude
Quite A Dude

If they are going to suspend Ingognito without pay they are going to have to do the same with Martin. Incognito has text messages from Martin that are equally offensive...

gymviking
gymviking

@psychsports Maybe, but also in America, if you have a collective bargaining agreement, as the players, including Martin, do, the team can't take action that is in conflict with it. This was always going to go to the lawyers.

cleopatra209
cleopatra209

@thebigdawg3 too bad we will not witness how you would have handled, being a 24y/o on an elite football team. bet your PU&&Y  would be stretched off the chart. PU&&Y!!!

fmfrijoles
fmfrijoles

@JoseFlores If you want a racist misogynist Roid Rage numbnut on your team....so be it. No wonder the DOLPHINS have sucked since Shula left....

GoPSULions
GoPSULions

@RealJDSportsFan1 Well, he went over the line.  The "I was ordered to" excuse did not cut it for war criminals, so won't here either.  He could have said no to his coaches, or done it another way.  If he was then punished for not being abusive, then I would support his suit.

ITATTRACTS
ITATTRACTS

@Rickapolis because he did what every other athlete in a fraternity of guys does…and Martin did it right back to him before he decided he was above it all. 

gyffes
gyffes

@Oldtimeduffer Remember when Sprewell choked his coach and the union got him reinstated? Ok, that was NBA, but it's still THE classic example of Stuff Gotten Away With. I think the NFL players' union gave away most of their power in the last 2 negotiations, so I don't see him winning this. It's probably a "counter-suit" type ploy by his agent/lawyers to deflect some of the ugly negative attention away from Incognito's own actions.

WillWillis1
WillWillis1

@TampaThunder You could exercise a little self-restraint and, you know, not click on stories that annoy or don't interest you.

RonAglund
RonAglund

@me1 

Incognito apparently was encouraged to toughen up Martin. If his boss, ie coaches told him to do this and then their bosses fired him for it and it plays out in the national media and hurts his ability to make money as a player and whatever future endeavors.

He may have one heck of a nasty lawsuit. If his conduct was encouraged by the coaching staff in regards to Martin it'll be hard to have grounds to fire him because he was following orders. Then to make him a national pariah could really cost the Dolphins.

ITATTRACTS
ITATTRACTS

@swidt You do realize that Martin sent equally rough/nasty texts to Incognito too right? That was before he decided he was above it all. 

RickEger
RickEger

@Quite A Dude Martin was constantly harrassed in his work place. he has very good grounds for a lawsuit.

CarlLegg
CarlLegg

@Quite A Dude  

The context of the Martin text was apparently very different than it seems on the surface. Let's wait until this all comes out. We really know so little, and each side has spun it in their own direction.

j7apple
j7apple

@Quite A Dude  I think the difference is, Miami doesnt have to pay Martin as he quit.

historiskull
historiskull

@gyffesSpreewell was out of the NBA for a very long time and he didn't get paid. Remember? Incognito is not facing over a season without pay.

ToddSzatkowski
ToddSzatkowski

@RonAglund @me1 Colonel Jessup gave the order to the soldiers for the Code Red, but those soldiers were still dishonorably discharged.

Downey: What did we do wrong? We did nothing wrong!
Dawson: Yeah we did. We were supposed to fight for people who couldn't fight for themselves. We were supposed to fight for Willy.

ITATTRACTS
ITATTRACTS

@CarlLegg @Quite A Dude b.s….he sent a picture of a crazed dog saying "I'll murder your family"…there was no different context. they were both fooling around and acting like punks. it happens all the time. for Martin to suddenly act like he's above it all now and put all his mental health issues on Incognito is wrong. 

RickEger
RickEger

@j7apple @Quite A Dude Martin was constantly harassed in his work place he has very good grounds for filing a federal lawsuit against the Phins...

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@ToddSzatkowski @RonAglund @me1  

Actually, the whole premise was bogus.

Earlier, they had brought food to the kid they later accidentally killed, who was being starved as a disciplinary measure.  There was no reference to "Bread and water" awarded by a legal proceeding, so presumably the starvation was yet another "off the books" illegal punishment.  The guys who brought him food were demoted and received adverse performance reports.

If you go against illegal orders and are punished for it, you have no culpability for the consequences of "gray area" actions like the "Code Red."  They thought they had received an order, and they carried it out with tragic consequences.

Incognito is a completely different case.  He is a known sociopath with criminal tendencies.