Posted October 30, 2013

NFL to reportedly consider negating touchdowns for taunting penalties

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The NFL will reportedly consider negating touchdowns for taunting penalties, which would've affected Seahawks wide receiver Golden Tate's game winning 80-yard touchdown against the Rams on Monday. (Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

Golden Tate’s game-winning touchdown against the Rams may have been called back under different rules. (Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

The NFL will likely consider negating touchdowns for taunting penalties, the NFL’s head of officiating Dean Blandino told the NFL Network.

Blandino said he’s “sure” the league’s competition committee will look at implementing the rule to mirror the same restriction on players in the NCAA; in college football, a player who receives a taunting penalty on a play involving a touchdown results in the negating of the TD and a 15-yard penalty from the location of where the taunting began.

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News that the league may discuss the rule change comes days after Seahawks wide receiver Golden Tate scored a game-winning touchdown against the St. Louis Rams. On the play — an 80 yard touchdown — Tate waved to the Rams’ secondary until he reached the end zone.

Afterward, Tate apologized for the taunting, saying it was “immature of me.” Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll said it’s a shame he acted that way on the field because “it kind of washes away a fantastic football play.”

Blandino commented on Tate’s play afterward, adding his thoughts about what he expects the league to do in the offseason to discourage this type of behavior in the future:

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“A lot of people felt that the touchdown shouldn’t have counted [but] a taunting foul is always treated as a dead-ball foul, meaning whatever happened during the play counts, and the foul is enforced on the next play, which would be the kickoff. In college, this action would take back the touchdown. Tate started taunting at the 25-yard line. The college rule, that’s enforced at the spot of the foul, so they’d go from a touchdown to first-and-10 at the 40, which would be a gigantic penalty. The NFL rule, it’s a dead-ball foul, it’s enforced on the kickoff. But I’m sure that’s something that the Competition Committee will look at in the offseason.”

(h/t to NBC Sports for the transcription from the NFL Network interview)


37 comments
CharlesHenry3
CharlesHenry3

I think you have to let things stand.  Okay, so he was "taunting" the opposition.  While it was completely immature, it's rather like complaining that a team is scoring too many points against you.

If you don't like it, change it.  Maybe you slap a 15-yard penalty on the kickoff, or from the end of the play if it isn't a TD, but don't negate the play, it makes no sense.

jack22
jack22

That's my deal breaker. I haven't watched so much as one MLB game in more than twenty years, because of Bud Selig. Goodell and McKay have pushed me to my limit. First time that the penalty is called, I'm done. For life, r until the NFL retires Roger "with extreme prejudice", by way of apology.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

Two now-forgotten Jets linemen shocked everyone in the mid-80s with a "sack dance."  That was pretty tame, considering what it's turned into.  

High time the NFL started penalizing guys for bush-league behavior.  It used to be called "bad sportsmanship."

Cool
Cool

The rule has already been misapplied by a flag happy zebra in the NCAA so I have no reason to doubt it would happen in an important NFL game.  Leave it alone... these rules are going to get a zebra killed by an angry fan.. just wait and see.

Epacific
Epacific

Interesting- as most any player that sacks a quarterback performs a "victory dance" of some sort.  Is this considered a taunt?  If so, does a sack get negated with the offense getting a first down and a gain of 15 yards?  What constitutes a taunt?  Slippery slope.

pvs
pvs

What's next, flag football?

sam93505
sam93505

They have GOT to be freakin' kidding me... the NFL won't admit that the "new" helmets are the blame for veteran players becoming Zombies when they retire, but they are gonna drop the hammer when a Wide Out got a bit carried away with a TD celebration? Give me a freakin' break....

TC206
TC206

WOW. weak. 

zsingerb
zsingerb

Grow some balls people. If you can't handle being taunted and insulted don't play.

jonpa31
jonpa31

It's the new American way. Control. Country full of weak people.

Merv
Merv

So are they going to penalize the DB's for smack talk and taunting every time they break up a pass?  Take away a touchdown the next time a Wide Receiver points at a DB and dunks the ball over the Goalpost?  What about the Running back that somersaults into the end zone?

Remember when Jake Locker threw the ball up in the air against BYU and the Referee took away the game winning touchdown?  Later the PAC  called it mistake and apologized but Washington still lost the game.

j7apple
j7apple

Good Grief, will they then add a player must serve a timeout in the corner as well?

Drumlaw80
Drumlaw80

Imagine this.  

Week 16, Eagles v Giants 2014, playoffs on the line. The December weather sucks, beer sales are through the roof, fistfights on the field and in the stands.

Eagles down by 3, ten seconds on the clock. Just when the season looks over, Vick or his sequel scores with a pass to a rookie wide receiver.  Touchdown!!!!!

Then, after the play of his life, the rookie taunts the cornerback.  

Tweet!!!!!  

Insert NFL Not-Genius Rule 506(f).  The Eagles TD gets taken away, Eagles lose.

Question -- In the chaos that comes next, who is potentially liable for injuries suffered by NFL fans, players, and/or referees? (a)  the stadium; (b) the Giants; © the Eagles; (d)  the wide receiver; (e) The ref who called the foul; or (f) the NFL?

Answer = all of the above.  

Not trying to be overly-critical, but this proposal has not been thought through, certainly not from a liability standpoint. The NFL must go towards a safer experience for the fans, not away from. 

p.s.  Not disrespect to Giants or Eagles, it could be any two teams.


ahrcshaw
ahrcshaw

Who cares about taunting, big deal.  Taking away TD's would be just as stupid. 

beekay31
beekay31

Thanks, Taint.  Now the overreaching refs will be questionably taking away all kinds of TDs from every team.

DennyCrane
DennyCrane

The current punishment is plenty meaningless, particularly with today's kickers. How about 15 yards from the original line of scrimmage. Then Pete the Cheat would have a lot more to discuss with Tate when he comes of the field. And by the way, Goldy didn't exactly give his full attention to Pete; as Pete was flapping his gums Tate just pushed past him.

BurtCaswell
BurtCaswell

YES......YES...YES! Every taunting incident needs to penalized with 15 yards from ORIGINAL line of scrimmage, loss of down and a warning to player and coach, with subsequent taunting penalties incurring ejection of player and coach. This b.s. must stop..for the good of the game and for the good of kids learning the right way to compete.


Drumlaw80
Drumlaw80

They can publish this new rule.   The Idiot's Guide to Starting a Riot at an NFL Game.

Hawk_Eye
Hawk_Eye

The wussyfication of America continues. 

jack22
jack22

@MidwestGolfFan So, you give them some time off without pay. What you don't do is stick Roger's clown feet on the damn field, during the damn game.

jack22
jack22

@Cool Roger doesn't have the Secret Service guarding his sissy backside, does he? 

jack22
jack22

@jonpa31 None of them weaker than that "Senator's son", Roger Goodell. Knows nothing about football and even less about the law. What he does know, of course, is guanxi and the Art of the (Corrupt) Deal", with which he extorts an endless stream of taxpayer dollars. Exhibit A, that one, for the crying need for a Revolution.

jack22
jack22

@j7apple Roger's got dibs on spanking their bare bottoms.

jack22
jack22

@Drumlaw80 Roger's definition of the fan experience is shiny baubles and the slick con. The only people for whom he has less respect and concern are the players.

PWINGS
PWINGS

@Hawk_Eye There's a simple solution to your concerns. Instead of the competition committee penalizing the player doing the taunting (Tate, in this case), they should allow the player being taunted (the DB) to retaliate without consequence. I wonder how inclined Tate or any other player would be to taunt after losing a couple of teeth? In the meantime, I'd appreciate more football and less theatrics. I doubt many (any?) fans are paying that much money to watch end zone celebrations. (Well, maybe the Lambeau Leap).

decredico
decredico

@Hawk_Eye you are an idiot ... just by using a euphemism for vagina proves what a moron you really are

jack22
jack22

@Drumlaw80 Ever wonder why Roger chose to single out Mr. Suh? When Donkey Kong wrapped him in that big old hug at the Draft, Roger looked as appalled as any Brahmin at the embrace of an Untouchable.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@sam93505 @BurtCaswell  

Cheap shot.

He's saying that kids need to learn respect for the game, their opponents, and good sportsmanship.  How could anyone object to that?

jack22
jack22

@PWINGS @Hawk_Eye There IS a rational solution, you know. Suspend the fool without pay. And make them repay a pro rata share of their signing bonus.

jack22
jack22

@BargainTuesday @decredico @Hawk_Eye Forgive the Mangina. White knighting is what they gotta do. It reassures them that they do, too, have stones. (It's just that they're internal, like hers.)