Posted October 22, 2013

‘Frustrated’ Don Mattingly unsure if he’ll be back with Dodgers even with contract option vested

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His contract option has officially vested, but Don Mattingly is "frustrated" with Dodgers ownership and unsure if he'll be back next season. (Elsa/Getty Images)

His contract option has officially vested, but Don Mattingly is “frustrated” with Dodgers ownership and unsure if he’ll be back next season. (Elsa/Getty Images)

Los Angeles Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said Monday that his contract option for 2014 vested when the team advanced past the National League Division Series.

But Mattingly admitted that he was frustrated with Dodgers’ ownership, which made him manage this past season without committing to him long-term. And he said he’s unsure at this point if he’ll return next season.

“When you’re put in this situation, the organization basically says, ‘We don’t know if you can manage or not,’” Mattingly said at a press conference with Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti on Monday, according to ESPN.com. “So, that’s the position I’ve been in all season long, so that’s not a great position for me as a manager. That’s the way it is, that’s the way the organization wanted it last year, that’s fine.”

He added that it’s been a “frustrating, tough year.”

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Although the fact that Mattingly’s option vested with the Dodgers’ advancement to the NLCS, Mattingly’s comments make it uncertain that he’ll return unless he and management work out a longer-term contract. The team has yet to make a formal announcement about whether Mattingly will return.

Mattingly guided the Dodgers to an NLCS appearance, but it came after a brutal 30-42 start to the season that almost led Dodgers ownership to give him the axe. The Dodgers eventually became the hottest team in baseball over a midsummer stretch, winning 42 of 50 games to take over first place and eventually win the National League West by 11 games over the Arizona Diamondbacks.


34 comments
scorber
scorber

It seemed to me that Donny Baseball was in over his head in the LCS. He handled Puig OK. But he had only one left-handed reliever on the roster which was a continual matchup problem. He seemed to behind in having pitchers ready in the bullpen. He let Kershaw pitch 48 pitches and I don't think I saw anyone come out to the mound from the dugout to change the rhythm nor did they ask any of the infielders or anyone to do anything to change what was going on. And later even the TV announcers were looking for more fire from the dugout. I don't think the Dodgers would have beaten the Cardinals anyway with Ramirez, Ethier and Kemp the way they were, but this was not good managing.

mckimsey
mckimsey

My problem with all you guys who are calling for Mattingly's head, WHO do you put in his place?

I can't think of one existing manager who I'd rather have, and is this upcoming year really a time you want to take a chance on an up and comer?

Aloha!
Aloha!

Don is really pushing the boss against the wall. He should wait til spring time to plead his case . He is giving them to much time to find someone better because he really looked bad at the beginning and the end.

KeysSteven
KeysSteven

'Don't look gift horse (your job) in the mouth,' Donny.

Mr. Puig, who should get serious consideration for NL MVP '13, saved your job, Mr. Mattingly, when you were close to being 'shown the door,' public show of support aside.  Best advice, Don: "Shut-ee," make your case in '14, show "you can manage (instruct Yasiel as need be)" and see what happens. 

GO22JETS
GO22JETS

Bring back Tommy Lasorda!   

Joebuckster
Joebuckster

Mattingly made some managerial decisions that probably costs them the series win. I don't blame them for not committing. They were also horrible to start the season, and mediocre to finish it. If not for the flukey hot streak he'd already be S#!Tcanned...

bhtcld
bhtcld

does anyone else get sick and tired of listening to these overpaid cry baby athletes.. poor poor Donny....

Big Brother
Big Brother

Many of the posters seem to forget that the Dodgers were a bit banged up for the LCS.  Not an excuse, just a fact.  Ramirez was playing with a broken rib!!!  Not one of you carped BEFORE game 6 about Kershaw being over-worked.  He has been brilliant all year, and just pitched a dud at the wrong time.  Did it occur to any of you that Gordon didn't run because he couldn't get a read on the pitcher?


Is Don Mattingly Jim Leyland?  Far from it.  He does bear a striking resemblance to Joe Torre though.  Without Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre would still be the guy who was a good player but not a winning manager.  I've watched Torre from back when he played.  I think that his teams won in spite of him.  He isn't a hall of famer on any level.  Maybe Mattingly can hone his skills, maybe he can't.  Staying with the Dodgers would be a catastrophic move for his career.  The Dodgers are going to drag him through the mud, just like the Jets are trying to do with Rex Ryan.  The Dodgers deserve Dusty Baker.  His teams win in spite of him too.

AaronDavidGleason
AaronDavidGleason

Tim Wallach is our guy.  Donnie is one of the worst strategists I've ever seen.  Sure, he's cool.  He gets the respect of the players.  He'll fight for you.  those are all good things.  But i want strategy...as in bunt Schumaker instead of letting him swing away.  Bunt Ellis with a man on first....nope he swung awaya nd got doubled up.  And he gassed Kershaw.  Mattingly, I wanted to love him, but he's a tinkerer.  Just not an elite manager.  

ShawnBullard
ShawnBullard

I hear they are hiring at Disneyland....take Mickey and Goofy with you. Losers. Go Cards

WHO*IS*ESPN
WHO*IS*ESPN

“When you’re put in this situation, the organization basically says, ‘We don’t know if you can manage or not,’

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Well, based on YOUR skills recently....you CAN'T.  But keep crying, you sound like the average babied player

j7apple
j7apple

Probably go the the Tigers

TedGreen
TedGreen

The reason they didn't extend Mattingly has to be they were waiting to see if Arte Moreno fired Scioscia.  When they fired some coaches instead, and kept Sosh and Dipoto, that left the Dodgers holding the bag, stuck with Mattingly.  And now they're having a heckuva hard time getting out of it gracefully.

TedGreen
TedGreen

And that move very arguably handed St. Louis Game 1.

Most teams could not recover from that big a giveaway, and the Dodgers didn't.

You could easily argue DB blew the LCS.


TedGreen
TedGreen

I made up my mind definitively when he yanked A-Gone in the 8th inning of Game 1 against the Cards, put Dee Gordon in.... and then... GORDON DOESN'T RUN!  I was screaming at the TV!  Donnie Baseball, quote unquote, gave up 2 A-Gone AB's and two more for Hanley, all in the clutch, for a pinch runner who didn't run.  I think Kasten made up his mind then too.  That was the proverbial straw.   With a payroll and talent like that, there is no room for Class D managerial blunders like that.  After 3 years in the dugout, DB does NOT get a pass for that one.

 

Sam Phillips
Sam Phillips

Yes Don - after 3 years there are still doubts about whether you can manager other than to be liked by the players. He's a horrible in-game manager and hasn't improved in 3years which is likely why the Dodgers have not extended his contract. They've probably been waiting to see what would happen with Mike Scoscia. Perhaps 1 more year and Scosia's available, they dump Mattingly and can build a championship team. Oh, one problem with that....Scoscia's not going anywhere. If the new ownership was smart they would get rid of both Colletti and Mattingly. Colletti's contract decisions have been notoriously bad with too many to mention. Mattingly should be gone by end of day Tuesday if the Dodgers have any integrity. They can't be called out by someone who's never won anything and hangs his hat on being "Donnie Baseball" when he's supposed to be managing a 200+ million payroll. Geez - if he can't win with that I guess he would be better off with the Cubs. A match made in heaven - they've never won anything either. 

TedGreen
TedGreen

Also, the fact Mattingly is still twisting in the wind without a contract, AFTER going 42-8, clinching before anyone else, winning 92 and the division by 11 games-- that speaks volumes about what Kasten and Mark Walter REALLY think of his managing skills. So Dodger apologists and homers, wake up!  Your own management doesn't think he's any good running a ballclub.  If they did, they would have fallen all over themselves re-signing him months ago. If Puig isn't called up June 1, Mattingly is fired that week. 

TedGreen
TedGreen


To smart observers, he's a good bench coach with fine player relations who is pitifully overmatched against more elite managers.

In 58 innings in the LCS, I don't believe the Dodgers played hit and run one time. Nor do I remember them bunting. Maybe they tried to steal once. Mattingly basically does nothing except wait around for the 3-run homer, a major failing in the National League, and especially in a series (the LCS) where runs were often at a premium.

Also, his inexplicable removal of A-Gone in Game 1 in the 8th inning, only to have pinch runner dee Gordon NOT attempt to steal, was akin to removing Kobe from a Laker game early in the 4th quarter. Incredibly senseless and stupid.

Plus he wore Kershaw out, overthrowing him.

So to me, you don't put the 27th best manager (or whatever he is) in charge of possibly the game's most talented roster, or certainly one of the most talented ones.

The Dodger-Mattingly relationship has run its course based on today's brutally awkward and uncomfortable (and unnecessary) presser. I mean, why hold a presser if Mattingly is still twisting in the wind? Bad PR move.

They need to make a move tomorrow. The Dodgers have more class than to let this silly situation linger.

Kasten doesn't want Mattingly, we get that. So make the move. Cut the cord. Let's move on.

lkjackson75
lkjackson75

posturing for $$.  D.M. will be back.  Players want him, hes got a good touch with a lot of egos.  Now that he's paid some dues and gets the clues, he'll still be in those shoes.

badcyclist
badcyclist

Please, let the Dodgers go back to being the Dodgers, not the Yankees West.  Shake Don Mattingly's hand and send him back to the Bronx with our compliments.  Rebuild the farm system, develop our own talent, forsake the free agent market, and rule the world with an iron fist.

Baker, Scoscia, Lopes, Russell (who got shafted last time around), Hunnicutt-- pretty much anyone but Garvey-- and I'm good.


Aloha!
Aloha!

@bhtcld We all miss the good old days when you could go to the ballgame, have some beers, and have a good time. With fifty bucks in your pocket and still come home with change. I agree , these crybabys have ruin the game. But again, if people stop going, they will have to cut salaries.

Big Brother
Big Brother

@Mel  I'm sorry.  I wasn't clear.  I was not suggesting that the Dodger won in spite of Mattingly.  I believe that the Yankees won in spite of Torre.  I believe that Mattingly honed his 'skills' under Torre, and so is not a good manager.  The players play for him and all, but strategically, he hasn't shown major league ability.  That I attribute to his mentor, Joe Torre.

As for Rex Ryan, the old regime stood by him.  Idzik wants nothing to do with him.  Ryan wanted to stay with Sanchez, for whatever reason, and had Geno Smith forced on him.  Good or bad, the decision of who plays is supposed to be the coach's.  Rex Ryan wasn't given that option APPARENTLY.  That there is finally a decent O-coordinator and Ryan returning to running the defense, is how the Jets have won 4 games.  Should Ryan be a head coach?  I doubt it.  I'd hate to see the Jets lose him as a D-coordinator though, because that boy can run a defense.  A reasonable head coach with Morningwig and Ryan as coordinators would make the Jets a pretty decent team quickly.


@Trapped_in_Texas Dusty will always be 'almost'


Mel
Mel

@Big Brother  A few points....

 Dusty Baker, while I'm a fan, has exactly ZERO world series appearances in nearly 20 years of managing.


Mattingly is a new manager and yes the team was banged up. You carry on about how he took this banged up team to the NLCS and what a great job it was, and then rip him for the team winning in spite of him. Can't have it both ways. 

As for your opinion, the moment you started defending Rex Ryan and how he's getting trashed by the Jets organization, you lost all credibility. The Jets, despite their dysfunction, have supported him from day one. When he stuck by a flopping Sanchez, the team stood by him. Ryan and the dislike he gets from people was caused by 1 person. And that person is Rex Ryan.

Big Brother
Big Brother

@AaronDavidGleason   You seem to have hit the nail on the head about Mattingly.  He needs to bench coach for a talented manager, and try to forget what sitting next to Joe Torre taught him.

Ted7441
Ted7441

Why would anyone want Scioscia to manage their ballclub????? Just watch the Angeles the last few years!!!!

Mel
Mel

@Michael_Alburn  Dusty "I can win the division and tank in the playoffs" Baker? We are speaking of the same guy right? You know, the one that's been managing for 20 years and has exactly ZERO World Series appearances in that time. If that's what you want, Mattingly has already showed he can take the team just as far as Baker has ever taken a team....

Rick G2
Rick G2

@Michael_Alburn take it from a lifetime Reds fan - Dusty brought the Reds back to contention, but was too much of a friend to the players to take them over the top.  He needs to retire and go fishing and spend time with his family.

mwr5053
mwr5053

@Michael_Alburn The Dustpan in LA would no doubt not be a success. Unless he would completely fall asleep and allow a great bench coach to call most of the shots.

Big Brother
Big Brother

@Mel @Big Brother I meant it sarcastically about Dusty Baker.  I don't like the Dodgers, and watching them lose and spend a fortune is funny to me.

Trapped_in_Texas
Trapped_in_Texas

@Mel @Big Brother Dusty Baker's SF Giants were up 3-2 in the 2002 WS with the most feared hitter in MLB history in the heart of the lineup before their mediocre starting and middle relief pitching finally caught up with them... Dusty almost had them there, but not even John McGraw or Joe McCarthy could win it all with that crew...

Hub25
Hub25

@Mel @Michael_Alburn I'm pretty sure Dusty managed the 2002 Giants in the WS. Granted he blew game 6 of that series by handing the game ball to his starter as a memento like the game was over. It wasn't. 

 Agree he is nothing special.