Posted September 17, 2013

Buccaneers scrap plans to wear Creamsicle throwback uniforms

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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers won't wear their creamsicle uniforms because of safety concerns. ( J. Meric, Getty Images)

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers won’t wear their creamsicle uniforms because of safety concerns. ( J. Meric, Getty Images)

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers won’t wear their infamous “creamsicle” orange throwback uniforms for their Sept. 29 game against the Arizona Cardinals because of an NFL health and safety ruling, the team announced.

The league sent a memo to all 32 teams last month approving a recommendation by the league’s Head, Neck and Spine Committee forbidding teams from switching helmets during the season.

“This offseason, we communicated a recommendation from the Head, Neck and Spine Committee and the Player Safety Advisory Panel to those teams planning to wear throwback uniforms for at least one game this season,” NFL spokesperson Brian McCarthy said via email Tuesday afternoon. “They recommended that players no longer wear different helmets as part of a ‘throwback’ or ‘third’ uniform.”

The Player Safety Advisory Panel is chaired by Hall of Famers John Madden and Ronnie Lott.

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The committee wants to prevent players from wearing multiple helmets during the season for safety reasons.

“We are excited to celebrate and honor the Hispanic heritage that has had such a profound impact on our community,” said Buccaneers Chief Operating Officer Brian Ford. “While we regret that our players will not be able to don the ‘Bucco Bruce’ helmet and traditional orange, red and white uniforms, there simply was no acceptable way to meet the requirements of the new policy while staying true to the spirit of our throwback theme. We will continue to explore options with the league office for bringing back this fan favorite in future seasons.”


78 comments
TeeHolmes
TeeHolmes

All the money the league makes off merchandizing, just buy the required helmets so teams and fans can pay tribute to the history of the franchise. The NFL is really starting to annoy me with some of these strange rules... The helmet issue shouldn't be one. Just buy the new NFL approved helmet to match the teams throwback uniforms. Stop being cheap.

bigdave062572
bigdave062572

What they failed to mention in this article is that in cases like the Buccaneers where the helmets are drastically different they often revert back to using older helmets that have been retro'd. I think it is less about using multiple helmets during the season and more about using a helmet that isn't up to current safety standards..i.e the older Riddell helments.


ProfessorGriff
ProfessorGriff

Umm...couldn't they just paint the existing helmets the week before they were scheduled to play?

RCH
RCH

If this is what it takes to prevent those Steelers convict uni's from ever being seen again then I'm all for this rule.

evileyefleagle
evileyefleagle

The throwback uniforms are just another attempt by the NFL to sell merchandise.

While some of the throwbacks are more palatable than the Nike-inspired swoosh types like the Broncos wear, it wouldn't bother me if I never saw those ridiculous Tampa unis again.

ChrisThom
ChrisThom

This is ridiculous. The suggestion from the league that wearing multiple helmets during a season is not safe has no basis that I am aware of. I am no expert but common sense would tell you that if a player is properly fitted to 1, 2, or more helmets is just as safe as a player that wears 1 helmet all season. It may even be able to be argued that by wearing multiple helmets during the season it "could" actually be better since each helmet would take less hits therefore be a "fresher" helmet. 


JosephVignolo
JosephVignolo

I don't get it. Why don't they just get a modern helmet that conforms to modern safety standards and then paint it and put a decal on it to make it look like a throwback helmet? The helmet would be physically identical to a modern one while just looking like a throwback.

rocknitout
rocknitout

Good. Less throwback unis is a good thing methinks. Especially those hideous ones they wear.

RCH
RCH

If I'm a Buc's player this news would make me happier than a camel on Wednesday.

Richard--Ramirez
Richard--Ramirez

Since goodell, baseball is more of a contact sport than football.

donald5
donald5

This is pretty dumb.  Pretty much puts the nix on more than half of the throwbacks.  No old Bucs, no Broncos, no white Jets helmets, not yellow Steeler helmets...Hell, a lot of the time I would just watch the game because the uniforms were so ugly I couldn't look away.  Oh well... I'm sure the NFL's apparel manufacturers are just thrilled that their sales will take a bit of a hit. 

OwG
OwG

Best uni's in NFL history...

raput76
raput76

the brown heritage??? I never even knew it was a racial thing....how naive I was

bhayes420
bhayes420

Just put them in old leather helmets to complete the throwback look.  Or do away with helmets all together. Bet that would stop players from leading with their head.

WHO*IS*ESPN
WHO*IS*ESPN

Guess management never thought of using the old decal on the newer helmet. Nah, too easy

hyphenite
hyphenite

So why don't they just wear the regular helmets?  Oh right, the league probably has a fashion clause that it all has to match.

Heath_Bell_Experience
Heath_Bell_Experience

riddell needs to sell the throwback versions of the mini speed helmets. c'mon riddell pull ur heads out bubs

Dude On A Mission
Dude On A Mission

This is the definition of being OVERLY ANAL RETENTIVE ~ and ABSOLUTELY OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE GAME OF FOOTBALL.  I love how the caramel macchiato people who have never tried on a helmet are deciding "what's best for football".  OK, if you have each player and each equipment guy ensure that each helmet is exactly the same as the other (air pressure, side padding, make, model) there should be no issue.  Last time I checked "throwback jersey games" DID NOT have a higher rate of injuries.  This is someone who has no concept just having an opinion that should not have been fully endorsed.  It's a nice concept, but the reality is the NFL did a great service to the fans by installing throwback jerseys and games of that ilk.  Personally I wish all the lawyers would go away, the teams would wear actual sweaters for the old days, and leather helmets ensuring no one would use their head as a weapon.  The problem is people that are administrators who never played take the fun out of the game and their stoicism over-rides the voice of the fans.  TRUST ME ON THIS, THERE IS A WAY TO KEEP THROWBACK JERSEYS AND HELMETS IN THE GAME WITHOUT RUINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE GAME OR THE SAFETY OF THE PLAYERS.  What the NFL has chosen is a cop-out, plain and simple.  Seriously the league needs to retract their thinking on this and fix it for the fans because they are in the wrong on this one.  This affects the entire league, not just Tampa Bay and needs to change today, not tomorrow or next year.  This is the equivalent of COKE switching to NEW COKE (which tanked by the way).  The NFL needs to look themselves and their trusted committee and say to themselves WE GOT LAZY AND PUT THE FANS LAST.  Moreover, throwback jerseys are big sellers, so the league affectively impact the shield in a negative way.  If a player or coach does that, they gets fined.  The league needs to man up on this one.  Finally until they fix it, just face it, this could be the beginning of the end of the greatest game on earth.  The NFL has truly JUMPED THE SHARK ON THIS ONE - how's that for carmel macchiato talk? 

kyleseiwert
kyleseiwert

Seriously.  F the NFL.  How anyone can watch this waste of a time league is beyond me.  Here's the bottom line:  I get the head injury issue, so leave that off the table.  If this committee recommends keeping the same helmet, I've got an idea...USE THE SAME M.F. HELMET, OR JUST BUY THE SAME HELMET, TIMES TWO!!  Are you kidding me with this garbage?  Nevermind that the Bucs throwbacks are without a doubt the best old school look in all of sports.  Basically, the Bucs ownership doesn't want to shell out a few bucks out of their billions to make this work. 

EvanBixen
EvanBixen

@bigdave062572 That is utter and complete BULL, give me a break...as if they can't afford new helmets or can't change the decals...dumb non story, dumb "safety" commitee, dumb NFL, dumb NFLPA

stabmasterarson21
stabmasterarson21

@ProfessorGriff Why would they need to do that?  We have universities with 10 different lids, they have more money than NFL teams?  Uh, no!  LOLOLOLOL!  No Fun League = FAIL!

TeeHolmes
TeeHolmes

Don't they practice in their game helmets? If not, paint the damn practice helmets.

JosephVignolo
JosephVignolo

@evileyefleagle Well, I'm a Patriots fan and I love it when they wear the hiking Pat Patriot helmet and the red jerseys. When they wear those uniforms, they look the same as they did when I saw my first Patriot's game at Fenway Park back in 1966. It's the history and tradition that is the value of wearing throwbacks.

6marK6
6marK6

@Rickapolis Yeah the Bears wore their throwback helmets last week, which were just regular helmets without decals. Stupid rule really.

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

F***** stands for Foolish. Really!

ChrisThom
ChrisThom

@JosephVignolo This is exactly what was done with the Washington Redskins. They have a throwback helmet that looks like Leather but was finished on brand new helmets. There is no basis on the statement that infers that players may not be as safe by wearing multiple helmets during a season. 

Common sense tells me that having multiple helmets that are "PROPERLY FITTED" would actually be better for the player since they would take less impacts during a season. I am not sure how a lineman taking hit after hit, play after play, game after game in the same helmet all season long is better than the player using a new helmet every 3 or 4 games. This seems crazy to me

williama5
williama5

@RCH Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.  WHAT DAY IS IT?

bhayes420
bhayes420

@WHO*IS*ESPN  The new helmet is a totally different color.  The old Bucco decal would look horrid on a gold helmet.  

AdamSWalburger
AdamSWalburger

@hyphenite Their worried that if they get a different helmet for just one game it won't fit properly or they won't meet the concussions standards

kyleseiwert
kyleseiwert

Your mission must be to sound like an idiot.  Good news.....you succeeded.

kyleseiwert
kyleseiwert

@Dude On A MissionMan, I thought I was over the top.  "I love how the caramel macchiato people who have never tried on a helmet are deciding "what's best for football" -   "The Player Safety Advisory Panel is chaired by Hall of Famers John Madden and Ronnie Lott."  OK, so...I won't say it.  It's easy enough to figure out.

"OK, if you have each player and each equipment guy ensure that each helmet is exactly the same as the other (air pressure, side padding, make, model) there should be no issue.  Last time I checked "throwback jersey games" DID NOT have a higher rate of injuries." -  Right.  No kidding.  This is all the owners not wanting to shell out a few extra bucks.

"What the NFL has chosen is a cop-out, plain and simple.  Seriously the league needs to retract their thinking on this and fix it for the fans because they are in the wrong on this one." - Not an NFL statement, genius.  This was a Bucs decision, and a council that, while sponsored by the NFL, is not the final word on NFL related issues.  The Bears just did a throwback uni.

"The NFL needs to look themselves and their trusted committee and say to themselves WE GOT LAZY AND PUT THE FANS LAST."  - It's cute when "fans" figure out that they were put last.  I guess you haven't paid attention to how big sports work recently.  Ever actually gone to a game and thought about how reasonable the prices were?  Didn't think so.

 "Moreover, throwback jerseys are big sellers..." - No kidding...so is changing the hat style, jacket style, colors, etc. that NFL teams change ALL THE TIME in order to bump up sales.  It's like you've never watched the NFL.


"Finally until they fix it, just face it, this could be the beginning of the end of the greatest game on earth."  -  I'll go ahead and pretend that the World Cup, the Euro Championships, and the UEFA Champions League doesn't already get more viewers on TV than the Super Bowl.  American Football is strictly that...American.  It's great, and college football has been an enormous part of my life, but let's stop pretending that anyone outside of the USA cares about American Football. 

 "how's that for carmel macchiato talk?"  - I just hope you aren't a lawyer, or that you're 14 years old, because you're post was easily destroyable.  Easily.  I was almost bored picking this apart. 

cuthbert
cuthbert

@Dude On A Mission The last time you checked, huh? You been checking often on the injury rate of throwback jerseys? Have you actually ever "checked into it"?


And while your venom is over the top for a non-issue (really, you're this worked up over uniforms?), this really is a stupid decision by them. ALl they have to do is put the old logo on the acceptable helmets. Problem solved. I don't think any purists would freak out too hard about this. 

Dude On A Mission
Dude On A Mission

@kyleseiwert This almost sounds like more of an endorsement of my take ~ but then again I don't think you were smart enough to notice ~ oops did it again ~ really you should stop ~ admit you're a world football (soccer) fan and leave it at that and leave the NFL to people that know the game.

TeeHolmes
TeeHolmes

Those throwbacks are classic...Tampa's cream sickle ithrowvack is loud, but I'd take that over the Steeler's imprisoned bumblebee. That one is hideous.

Dude On A Mission
Dude On A Mission

@JosephVignolo @evileyefleagle Yeah you nail it here it should be MORE about the NFL being generational with the teams and sharing each teams rich history in the league.  Hey I don't like the old Philadelphia Eagles yellow and blue or the Steelers "I'm A Convict" look, from the Pittsburgh Pirate days.  But there is a richness in embracing the leagues humble beginnings while being able to see how far it's come.  I think this is the point some of the younger fans might not be in touch with yet, but sometime down the road they probably will be.  Personally I think the Denver Broncos need to wear the original Orange Crush with the 'D' on the helmet but NIKE had to get involved and mess it all up to sell jerseys.  Hey I get it, but you need to embrace the history if you call yourself a real fan of the game.


Rickapolis
Rickapolis

@JosephVignolo I agree, Joseph. The old uniforms remind us of when we were kids (and some, like the Packers, go even further back).  I enjoy seeing them. 

RCH
RCH

@AdamSWalburger @hyphenite I think you missed what he was saying. Wear the throwback jersey,pants, etc.. but wear their current helmets with it.


Dude On A Mission
Dude On A Mission

@kyleseiwert @Dude On A Mission Kyle ~ I think you are offended because it's obvious you love hangin' with the carmel macchiato crowd.... NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT ~ You can say what you want about Madden & Lott being on the committee this that and the other, but what this issue is about is someone not associated with the NFL more or less dictating NFL policy on how the end product looks.

Perhaps you're not a real fan ~ perhaps you are ~ regardless I could care less.  However what I care about as a fan of the NFL is that they handle their business the right way.  Obviously they have a high standard and they usually deliver, however this is a cop out.  It's like not fixing your car when you know it should be fixed.  

You sort of made my point with my comment ( just a thought - but cynicism exist ) about the rate of injuries.  There was something you missed in the article - and dare I say it - IS TOTALLY DESTROYABLE HERE ~ Shouldn't the NFL have provided pertinent data for making this alteration since it was out of safety concerns?

Yes, No, Maybe?

Regardless you overlooking that is destroyable since you seem to think you're sooooooooooooo smart. 

I'm not here to engage is stupid talk, like if your real motive is to bash American football in favor of world football.  I'd say stick to what you do know, not what you don't.

I enjoy sports personally, but you sound like a world football fan.  Hey enjoy the game, but at least understand what's going on here.  I know they don't wear helmets in that sport and you probably don't while you're drinking your carmel macchiato's - but if you do - don't spill like you just did here.

What's really boring is listening to a soccer fan act like he knows something about the NFL.



Dude On A Mission
Dude On A Mission

@cuthbert @Dude On A Mission I like your take, I hate seeing the degradation of the NFL, and it's usually weak decision making with little regard for the fans who support the teams. I'm not sure you read the NFL's official response, but it was very weak, and as I stated, a lazy - seriously lazy way to handle this.  I mean it is a weak argument.  Since helmets were invented guys have had game helmets and practice helmets.  The point is they are wrong on this one even though it is a nobel attempt to be right ~ just not a very well executed one.  


Dude On A Mission
Dude On A Mission

@Richard B @Dude On A Mission Richard, the short answer is I grew up when players could play everywhere on the field... so yes I have strapped on a helmet, knocked people on their can, played, coached, you name it.  So the translation is I care about the game in a way that might be more than some suits care about their own investments in the game.

Richard B
Richard B

@Dude On A Mission @Richard BI wasn't the one saying that I knew about football because I had put on a helmet. You were saying you knew about football and that people who don't wear helmets don't know about football. So I asked if you had worn a helmet. Because if you hadn't worn a helmet, then you don't know about football either