Posted August 19, 2013

Report: A-Rod rejected lesser suspensions in discussions with MLB

MLB

New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez rejected Major League Baseball’s overtures of a suspension that would have been “way, way less” than the 211-game suspension recently handed down by the league.

Fox Sports’ Ken Rosenthal reported Sunday night the league discussed significantly lower penalties with Rodriguez for his role in the Biogenesis of America performance-enhancing-drug scandal. Back in April, the league even offered Rodriguez a 50-game suspension. But Rodriguez rejected a potential compromise while seeking to “mount a more aggressive fight,” Rosenthal reported.

“At different points, it could have been way, way less than where it is now,” one source told Rosenthal.

MLB handed down Rodriguez’s 211-game suspension Aug. 5. In the months before the suspension, numerous possibilities were rumored and reported, including everything from 50-game suspensions to lifetime bans from the game.

Two days after the suspension was handed down, the Major League Baseball Players Association filed Rodriguez’s appeal to the suspension, which has allowed him to continue playing. Typically, 50 games is the standard suspension for a player’s first performance-enhancing-drug offense, but the league gathered evidence on Rodriguez that purported he was interfering with their investigation into Biogenesis.


45 comments
jolivera4304
jolivera4304

I think I'm tired about hearing about Biogenesis, although I'm honestly concerned about  Alex Rodriguez and illegal poker, involving consumption of illegal drugs. He never did get suspended for that poker party in 2011, did he? And did that little league team in Miami ever get that $90 A-Rod was allegedly donating to them?

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6830659/mlb-suspend-alex-rodriguez-new-york-yankees-illegal-poker  

 http://tracking.si.com/2013/02/26/alex-rodriguez-charity-foundation-yankees/


Aloha!
Aloha!

It's really sad that the top headlines about baseball are about A-Rod . He is being a major distraction with the sport and taking away spotlights away from real players. He is guilty as hell and anyone who says he is not should have their heads examined. 

RealJDSportsFan
RealJDSportsFan

It looks like Rodriguez and his ‘team’ are looking to distract everyone from the original story here which is his PED use and they’ve done so successfully for now. The media and fans are fixated on him suing the Yankees and other stories while little is said about his actual use of PED’s. I wrote up an article about his malpractice suit and the likelihood of success for Rodriguez:

http://jdsportsfan.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/alex-rodriguez-to-sue-yankees-doctor-for-malpractice-will-he-win/

anonnomus
anonnomus

In the American justice system, a person is innocent until proven guilty.  And, the burden of proving the person guilty lies with the prosecution.  So, it's really up to MLB to prove that A-Rod did what they are accusing him of.  They have arbitrarily handed out a 211 game suspension--which is not supported by the collective bargaining agreement for a failed drug offense.  They are claiming he interfered with their investigation as the basis for this suspension.  A-Rod has exercised his right to appeal this suspension.  If MLB wants to take the high road, they should just shut up and await the arbitration hearing.  You don't try a case in the court of public opinion.  Of course, it is pretty obvious the commissioner is more interested in proving he is the czar of baseball than letting the process take its course.  If MLB wants to handle this properly, work to push up the date on the arbitration hearing, and present their case!


Is he guilty?  I don't really know.

Wisconsin Death Trip
Wisconsin Death Trip

What SHOULD be happening but isn't is this. "A-Roid" should be COMPLETELY ignored, and games that he plays in not be nationally shown. ALL reporters should pass on interviewing him too. This is the only way in dealing with a narcissistic SOB who craves constant juvenile attention.  The MEDIA is personally responsible in creating this circus in the first place. Without the media GOONS feeding this story FURTHER......there isn't one other than behind closed doors.

TeddyBloomquist
TeddyBloomquist

 I believe A-Rod is guilty as guilty can be, but if MLB screws this up, how is anyone ever going to take the powers-that-be seriously again? It almost seems like a political thing: someone's telling the truth,and the other's lying, but once the media waters get muddy it's anyone's game. MLB needs to keep a firm grasp around the guy's throat and paint as clear a picture as possible for the fans while calmly and deliberately dismantling A-Rod's arguments and public comments. There's a new story every day, so it's tricky, but MLB needs to keep their heads above the muck and just beat the guy's daily stories and claims down repeatedly. 

Korzagg
Korzagg

No way Arod walks he will serve the full 211 games, and for that he can thank Braun, No way are they going to take the chance of letting another guy off. 

friendly--neighborhood--scrawler
friendly--neighborhood--scrawler

Although i dislike everything about A-Roid's lying bleep, he did the right thing by appealing..  Doing nothing he receives 211 games, probably career ending and 30 plus million gone.  Appealing may get him off the hook since this is an all or nothing case. MLB and Bud bit off more than they could chew trying to clip A-Roid for 211 games

tfaw
tfaw

MLB should just re-offer A-Roid the 50 game deal again to make this story die for now...

LVGRAMPS
LVGRAMPS

211 days wont make an honest man out of the bum. 

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Can't some outer space aliens transport Rodriguez into deep space? Or to the planet 'Dirtbag?

FredFlintsone
FredFlintsone

Days of our Yankees  is best soap opera going. 

chris s1
chris s1

WOW Watching MIke and MIke on the A-rod injury from last year the Yankees knew he was hurt and did not tell him and had him play through the injury, and it was a torn hip ligament.


Class act Yankees.

FredFlintsone
FredFlintsone

Your boss, your teammates don't want to talk to you, hope your lawyers still do. Go with name change at this boing, Bob Smith maybe (not Carlos danger). It's best for everyone

JorgeSmith
JorgeSmith

This sounds like just another MLB attempt to discredit A-Rod in the eyes of the public.All the unattributable quotes are an easy way to discredit someone without ever being held accountable for the statements issued.Unless there's a name behind a "source" I give it as much credence as the comments posted online.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

A-Rod = dishonorable scumbag.

MLBPA = Scumbag enablers.

'Nuff Said.

effeweall
effeweall

People need to realize that MLB drug testing policy is a joke.  56 players caught in 9 years thru testing.  Its a farce.  Arod knows this and if he is taking HGH or anti-aging drugs NOT PEDs he is ready to fight the letter of the law of MLB drug policy.  this is a great commercial for MLB, get all the non baseball fans watching.  Arod will beat the suspension,m and if he loses to the arbitrator he will sue MLB on the fact the last arbitrator who sided with Braun got fired, so he was not allowed a fair hearing with the new arbitrator who is in fear of losing his job.  AROD cannot lose cause Bud Selig has no business being commissioner.  He should have stayed in Milwaukee running that franchise into the ground.

jdane
jdane

@anonnomus But MLB is bound by the CBA, not by the niceties of the Am. justice system.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@friendly--neighborhood--scrawler  

A-Rod was reportedly offered a much lesser suspension if he (pardon the pun) played ball.  He refused.

This seems more like the hyper-aggressive posturing of a megalomaniac.  He broke the rules by taking PEDs, now he's trying to game the system through legalistic maneuvering.  My instinct is that he will win, as unscrupulous ruthlessness usually ends victorious.

bjvande
bjvande

@chris s1 If you read Cashman's response to this accusation, the Yankees position is that they did not know of his injury.   That ARod kept trying to play, and kept asking to be in the line up.

And, if you remember, the reporting at the time supports the Yankee team view, and not Arods new, latest story. 

So, let's wait until it plays out before picking sides here.

ITATTRACTS
ITATTRACTS

@chris s1 lmao, if you think he didn't know he had a TORN HIP LIGAMENT (it's a pretty painful injury), then you are a sucker of epic proportions. 

Sportsfan18
Sportsfan18

@FredFlintsone   A mess all the way around.  At this point in all of this, the Yankees are still on the hook for the remainder of his contract, less however many games his suspension is after arbitration.  

Since they still have to pay him and since he still offers them more production at 3rd than others currently on the roster, they are playing him even though he isn't on speaking terms with the front office and who knows with respect to his teammates...

The Yankees are not in the playoffs currently, but the team, management and their players still hold out hope of trying to sneak in as the 2nd wild card team.

If Jeter comes back, he'll produce more than who they've had out there at short this yr just as Arod is producing more than they've had from others at 3rd this yr.

Then, having Grandy back too and Soriano on the team well at least their chances are a bit better than they were without all of these guys back and on the field (well except for Jeter as he isn't back yet).

The key will be after this dies down a bit during his suspension, how well does Arod play when he returns to the field?  Since the Yanks will have to pay him, I think they'll still play him if he offers them better than they have otherwise.

But since he's old and will be older still and since there are still multiple yrs left, it's only a matter of time until the Yanks simply tell him to stay at home while still paying him.

slimpack
slimpack

@JorgeSmith I am not worried about A-Rod and the other ball players because they have millions of dollars. I have to work hard to feed my family. Let us honor good players such as Homer Bailey and catcher Ryan Hanigan who have brilliant careers. http://t.co/p0AvTioNET

mystafugee
mystafugee

@MidwestGolfFan as for your dumb@ss comment about the MLBPA being a scumbag enabler, they aren't arguing he shouldn't be punished, they're arguing that his punishment is disproportionate to other players in similar circumstances.  

mystafugee
mystafugee

@MidwestGolfFan oh yeah but the Yankees are so honest giving a PED user hundreds of millions.  If you don't think they knew, you probably think Santa put those presents under the tree on Xmas eve.  

Petzuk
Petzuk

MLB is a lot worse than that. They could care less about PEDs if no one complained. All the owners care about is their revenue.

MarkPost
MarkPost

@effeweall HGH most certainly is a PED.  What do you think a PED is?  It's anything which enhances your performance.  This fact alone completely negates any other opinion you have on the subject.

likedoohan
likedoohan

HGH is a PED. It is not a testosterone analog, but is still an anabolic hormone which building muscle mass. Its effects are essentially the same as testosterone. The reason it came into more widespread use was that us of testosterone derivatives was easily diagnosed through urinalysis, whereas detecting HGH requires blood samples during a very limited window. I'm not sure why so many believe HGH use is somehow not as bad as testosterone. It is NOT medically indicated for recovery from injury. It is approved for growth issues in children with hormone deficiencies and for wasting syndrome such as HIV in adults. If he was using HGH, he was violating the CBA. HGH testing is part of the protocol.

anonnomus
anonnomus

@jdane @anonnomus True, but they are bending the CBA pretty far, too.  They have released a lot of information that should be treated as confidential, and, hence, are in violation of the CBA, too.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@mystafugee @MidwestGolfFan  

MLBPA is most certainly a dirtbag-enabler. If you're serious about justice, sometimes, you just have to step aside and let a dirtbag take the hit without harping on technicalities.

A-Rod didn't get framed and sent up for life.  He's a destructive jerk suspended for serious misconduct, with plenty of money and his freedom.


MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@Petzuk  

Seems to me the exact opposite.  The Commissioner works for the owners; his acting to stop PEDs must mean the owners do. They may have looked the other way for a long time, but now they want to do stop it. 

"Better late than never," may sound lame, but as compared to whom?  The players and their mouthpiece, the MLBPA?  They're the ones fighting this. 

MarkPost
MarkPost

@Petzuk It bugs me when people single out MLB owner like that.  Do you really think that NFL or NBA owners care any less about their revenue?  You're naive if you think so.

tommydawg
tommydawg

@MarkPost @effeweall Creatine and caffeine are performance enhancing substances. So are many other "legal" things. Why are they legal (for sports or otherwise - many performance enhancing drugs and substances are not prohibited in the "legal" sense, but they are prohibited in many if not all sports) and other substances aren't?

effeweall
effeweall

@MarkPost @effeweall i am not taking a reporters opinion on PEDs.  If the MLB doping rules do not state HGH or a variation masked as a anti aging drug is ILLEGAL, he is not guilty.  MLB has not released this.  But Arod is in the headlines of every news paper in the country.  This is a great advertisement for the game bringing in new fans and MLB's drug policy is a joke.

Hub25
Hub25

@MarkPost @effeweall You could make a decent argument that the majority of players who have been suspended for PED's did not enhance their performance at all.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@effeweall@tommydawg@MarkPost 

PEDs are not the same as speed.

Speed revs you up, but that's a double-edged sword.  Being revved up makes it easier to get injured, especially if you're already tired/hurt.  Speed doesn't make you stronger or help you heal.  It helps you push your body's boundary, which makes it easier to get hurt.  It's also temporary.

PEDs change the body permanently.  They make you bigger and stronger than nature intended, and help you heal faster.  Even when someone stops taking PEDs, they don't lose all the muscle.  The body-breakdowns take several years to happen, longer (as in, until after a playing career is over) if wisely administered.

effeweall
effeweall

@tommydawg @MarkPost @effeweall MLB has been taking speed for years.  MLB turned a blind eye to McGuire and Sosa.  Then they went ballistic on Bonds.  Arod may have never broke the PED policy by the rules of MLB.  Everyone keeps saying he took HGH.  If HGH was actually made illegal in 2009, Arod is Not Guilty.  If Biogenes found natural herbs that helped in AntiAging is he guilty?  MLB has zero interest in cleaning the game, they want a soap opera.  Selig cancelled a tied all star game, 10 years of PED nonsence, APPROVING THE SALE OF THE DODGERS????  2 Billion for that franchise and the surrounding land still owned by McCourt.  Sports are a business, they are getting advice from Wall Street and SELIG is the master of spinning garbage into advertising.  They Yankees best attendence was when Arod returned.