Posted August 13, 2013

Pete Rose apologizes for ‘beating my wife,’ drugs and drinking remarks

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Pete Rose apologized for his comments comparing MLB's Biogenesis suspensions with his lifetime ban. (Joey Foley/Getty Images)

Pete Rose apologized for remarks comparing MLB’s PEDs suspensions with his lifetime ban. (Joey Foley/Getty Images)

Pete Rose recently made headlines Monday for his take on Major League Baseball’s suspensions of players linked to performance enhancing drugs via the Biogenesis scandal. In comparing Alex Rodriguez’s 211-game ban, Rose, who began serving a lifetime ban in 1989 for gambling on his team while managing the Reds, said said he “picked the wrong vice.” The all-time hits leader suggested that he would have faced a lesser MLB sentence if he had abused alcohol or drugs, or beat his wife or girlfriend.

Furor over that quote caused Rose to issue an apology Tuesday.

From CBS Pittsburgh:

“If I’ve learned anything over the past 24 years since my banishment from baseball, it’s to own up to my failures right away. I was feeling sorry for myself when I compared my vice to others, including abuse and drinking. Of course, all vices are not to be excused. I know gambling almost destroyed baseball and I have accepted the way Commissioners Giamatti, Vincent and Selig acted toward me.”

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The comments that got the all-time hits leader in hot water include:

“… And to be honest with you, I picked the wrong vice. I should have picked alcohol. I should have picked drugs or I should have picked up beating up my wife or girlfriend because if you do those three, you get a second chance. They haven’t given too many gamblers a second chances in the world of baseball.”


57 comments
Paul96
Paul96

Just to pile on, because Rose is such a jerk.  There were more than a few years where he was arguably the worst starting player in baseball. In '74, for example he played in every game and batted ,284 with 51 RBIs and 3 HRs.  Name a team   that would be satisfied with that from an average (at best) first baseman.

gatetam
gatetam

Pete actually has kind of point there.  It does seem like baseball is awash with giving folks second chances.  But, gambling not so much.

Truthfully
Truthfully

Poor, poor Petey!  You knew the rules, you lied, lied, lied and lied some more.  And then you AGREED to a lifetime ban.  Mr. Rose the only person who deserves blame here is you.

Charles_Kent
Charles_Kent

Like it or not, people, MLB has a rule, a rule known by every player and employee of MLB and the teams.  Rose knew it; Rose intentionally violated it; he got caught; he's paying the price for his actions. There are no hedge factors in the rule.


MLB Rule 21

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(d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year.


Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.

Charles_Kent
Charles_Kent

He intentionally violated baseball's most sacred rule.  He deserved his lifetime ban.  Forget about comparisons with other people's violations; they have NOTHING to do with him.   He knew the penalty for getting caught was a lifetime ban, and he played Russian Roulette... it's his own fault.

Me18
Me18

It is sad that he has to apologize for speaking the truth. He was right in his statement; everyone gets second chances except gamblers.

HansKatros
HansKatros

Sad how nothing is pure sport anymore and nothing in society is pure honesty. How anyone can go through life cheating through it in sports or financially is a failure of mankind.

MarcoDemastrie
MarcoDemastrie

If my memory serves me right,Pete Rose agreed to the life suspension,handed out by Mr.Giomatti,(spelling may be wrong) Could that be one of the reasons he is still not re-instated into baseball?maybe the powers of the MLB officials hold this against Pete.Not wanting to change what was issued by the former baseball comish.

If only Pete hadn't lied throughout the begining years of his suspension.Had he told the truth,he may have been forgiven. BUT who knows.

Riley E. Coyote
Riley E. Coyote

Hey Pete, do us all a favor and SHUT THE FORK UP!!!!!

Roger11
Roger11

Forgot to mention I was at Baseball H.O.F . Pete Rose Display is one of the largest one there, very impressive, There a small note posted in the corner stating not in the hall of fame because he gambled. They want to recognize what his accomplishment  without thinking they can recognize the man. Must say Baseball committee is like the NCAA full of it.  

Roger11
Roger11

Enough is enough , if any body is to be punish it should be all the executive MLB , They knew what was going on when Sosa and McGuire where slamming the ball, But after the strike it was bringing the crowds back. their damage to baseball far out weighs any thing Pete Rose did. Does any one out remember when Paul Horning and Alex karras  got caught gambling while playing in the NFL . They got a one year suspicion, One year not a life time. 

xxman
xxman

Unlike the current mess in which many MLB players find themselves, Pete's accomplishments had absolutely nothing to do with why he suffers his many penalties.  His after-the-facts sin was mild in comparison to why other players have been banned.  Don't owners also gamble when they plop down multi-million dollar contracts on un-proven players?  What's the difference?  They're both gambling.  I know, one is a business and the other is a sin, and we sure like to throw stones at other sinners.  If he was gambling while he was still playing, I maybe could understand why he was banned.  But as a manager?  C'mon.  He'd already put up his numbers!!  Sure, Pete broke a rule, but his punishment far outweighs his "crime" - especially for the guy who epitomizes the game.  Nobody did it better, and isn't that what the HOF is all about?  He's paid his dues - if that's what they are - and it is long past the time when he should be honored for his feats.  Pete deserves to be elected as much as anyone ever did, and more than all but a few.  Do it before it's too late - there's already enough hypocrisy associated with this game.

AdolfoArauz
AdolfoArauz

Nothing wrong with his first set of comments.  No one is condoning them, but it's true.  

LVGRAMPS
LVGRAMPS

Pete Rose deserves the recognition he has been denied.

RandySchirmer
RandySchirmer

It might not have been the best thing to say in that it would get some riled up but he is right. And betting on his team to win is not like the era of the Chicago Black Sox.  

Popper
Popper

I "hated" Pete Rose as a player because he was the opposition and always tried his best to beat you, all-too-often with annoying success and in so many different ways. But his banishment has lasted long enough. It's time for this baseball prodigal son to come home to the Hall of Fame and for his baseball brethren and bosses to welcome him back..

JimKirkwood1
JimKirkwood1

Sad as it is, his first statement is accurate

RogerS72
RogerS72

I agree with many of the previous posts that Pete Rose belongs in the HoF.  Gambling on baseball while you are still involved in some capacity is wrong and punishments should be handed out.  BUT just like anything else you have to consider all the facts.  Therefore he should be giving a second chance JUST LIKE THEY DO OTHER PLAYERS!  I guess the message MLB wants to send out is... If you do drugs we will give you a second, a third and even a fourth chance ... but if you place a bet on a game that you can't influence, well, then your out for good!!!!    Yeah thats really fair!

homerunLee
homerunLee

Pete Rose's baseball records should still be on the record.

What he did on the field was entirely separate ! 

Thomas74
Thomas74

Every major newspaper in America  posts the odds / lines every day on all sports........MLB does nothing about that ....hypocrites  ! 

Mark112
Mark112

Pete is something short of handsome.

jendall714
jendall714

There's something about an Aqua Velva man..........

bubba5
bubba5

What's wrong with what Rose said......he is right.  There are some people that are jealous of this man.  A man

that holds many Records and if Obama had a son he should be proud if it looked like PETE ROSE!!!!!!!!  A

Real HERO!!!!

dionmax35
dionmax35

I watched Pete Rose sprint to first first base every time he got walked.  I watched him play the game to the fullest of his abilities and he always did it with class ON THE FIELD.   I love Pete Rose as a player and  have not problem telling my son that I want him to be like Pete.  He could pick much worse role models or baseball hero's.  At least I dont have to explain what a asterisk is beside his name or how Steroids enhance your skills and your ability to play at a higher level for a longer time without breaking down.  


dionmax35
dionmax35

I guess cheating to get 250 million dollar contracts is much less criminal than betting that your team is going to win.  Tells you how screwed up America is.  Guys buy,sell and do drugs......beat,rape and abuse woman.....that is ok and you will always get another chance and be forgiven.  Snort cocaine in the dugout during a World Series run....that's ok also and you are forgiven.   Mess with baseballs money machine and bet on baseball.....then you are a scum bag, low life and MLB will drag your name through the mud and wash it off just long enough to profit off it when they can.   I say its all backwards and that Pete the baseball player got all those hits with his own skill set and Bonds,Big Mac,Sosa,ARod and all the rest were able to put up their numbers by actually cheating and enhancing their skills to a higher level than they really possessed naturally.   How can you even have the cheaters names appear at all atop the record books when most likely they would have been average without the drugs? Pete was not a great guy but he is like a Saint compared to today's athletes who hang out in Strip clubs,casinos and brothels and have little regard for family,friends or fans? The good guys of today are the guys who get less recognition and who are considered boring.  Is this your idea of a better America?

ATRUEAMERICAN
ATRUEAMERICAN

He doesn't need to apologize...Pete is absolutely correct.  

Bob35
Bob35

Says it like it is, you gotta give that to Pete.

KenMichaels
KenMichaels

"lifetime ban"........does that mean he could be inducted after he dies?

jbgood
jbgood

He still belongs in the Hall of Fame! The building is pathetic without him. Rose is honored in several different displays but he should be officially a HOF member. It's time to give him a pardon.

leyahsdad
leyahsdad

man you know what this guy is the ALL TIME hits leader no one will ever break his record and just because the last 3 commisioners were dushe bags hopefully the next one will let him in where he deserves the Hall Of Fame . Even people thats get life in prison sometimes get out on parole ............ its time to let pete back in before its too late .

joeshine730
joeshine730

Pete couldn't even teach his son to hit..

joeshine730
joeshine730

Pete just go away you disgraced the game of baseball and you know you bet every way you could?

Charles_Kent
Charles_Kent

@Roger11 , Rose knew what the penalty would be if he got caught.  And he still did it.  He has no argument; neither do the fans who look only at his number of hits.   Comparing him to anyone else is bogus.... he did what he did, fully knowing the penalty.  Now he's paying for his arrogance.

Charles_Kent
Charles_Kent

@xxman - No way.  HIs is the worst violation of all....  If you think deeply into it, you know I'm right.

Charles_Kent
Charles_Kent

@LVGRAMPS  Oh, he's getting the recognition he earned... banishment for intentionally violating baseballs most sacred rule, intentionally, and fully knowing the penalty.

Charles_Kent
Charles_Kent

@RandySchirmer Oh REALLY?????   Why, because he got all those hits?   Think about the links from him being the manager and betting or not betting on his team.   If anything, his betting was worse than the Black Sox; today's game is such big money, and money makes things happen... like throwing more games.

Charles_Kent
Charles_Kent

@Popper , Read MLB Rule 21.   It says "... shall be declared ineligible PERMANENTLY."  There are no hedges in the rule.   Rose knew that and still did what he did.  That's all there is to it.

RandySchirmer
RandySchirmer

@dionmax35 - Pete's hustle is how the Phillies won the 1980 WS. I remember watching a pop up foul bounce out of Bob Boone's mitt. Rose was right there to catch it for the very critical out. 

Roger11
Roger11

@joeshine730 Don Drydales one of the best pitchers in his era ,And his wife Ann Myers, Greatness college basketball player EVER couldn't roll a basketball to 1st base ,whats that got to do with their talent 

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@jbgood @joeshine730  

He broke the most sacred rule in baseball.  Everyone knows the penalty for that is a lifetime ban.

What part of this do you not understand?