Posted August 13, 2013

Report: Johnny Manziel was involved in two more autograph signing sessions

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Johnny Manziel is the target of an NCAA investigation. (Scott Halleran/Getty Images)

Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel is the target of an NCAA investigation. (Scott Halleran/Getty Images)

ESPN.com’s Darren Rovell and Justine Gubar report Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel participated in two previously unreported autograph-signing sessions.

According to Rovell and Gubar, Manziel participated in signings in both South Florida after the BCS National Championship Game in early January and in Houston later that month. They were both organized by Florida-based autograph dealer Kevin Freistat, according to the report.

That brings the total number of paid reported sessions involving Manziel to six. Rovell and Gubar reported Manziel has signed his name more than 4,400 times during the sessions — including more than 1,500 in each of the two sessions organized by Freistat.

The NCAA is investigating Manziel in connection with the alleged signing sessions. The NCAA and Texas A&M aren’t commenting on the ongoing investigation, and Manziel has not addressed the media since the allegations first surfaced last week. Freistat did not return calls or text messages seeking comment from ESPN.


111 comments
mjhellund
mjhellund

AJ Green is feeling like he really was a victim of the NCAA about now. He sold his own shirt and sat four games. Anybody heard from the guy that bought the jersey lately. NCAA claimed he was an agent.

joeshine730
joeshine730

Johnny what the hell were you thinking?

HerbWalden
HerbWalden

jONNY BOY AND COACH ARENT TO SMART, HE WILL COST A/M wins in the end, this is his last year anyway before Canadien ball to small for NFL.

HerbWalden
HerbWalden

His budy or agent took the money but he will still be found quilty under by laws of NCAA

joeshine730
joeshine730

Johnny Manziel is a disgrace and shame on Johnny for taking money stupidly like that.  If you take money don't get caught.

BillCampbell
BillCampbell

Is it a violation to simply SIGN 4,400 times or to GET PAID for it? I don't see anywhere in any of these articles where he was actually paid or how much he was paid. Am I missing something? 

OraPike
OraPike

isn't it great to have the Manning family---Archie/Peyton/Eli??? what a class act compared to 99.9% of athletes today---greed and self destruction.  I love sports but all that money etc is out of hand.

DarrenWoodbury
DarrenWoodbury

And this is why I do not watch college football. At least when I watch the NFL I have no illusions about it being all about the kids and their education.

joeshine730
joeshine730

If Manziel was black he would have been suspended for a year or two. Blame his idiot father.

StevenBrink
StevenBrink

This will get swept under the rug by the NCAA just like the Miami, North Carolina and the Cam Newton violations.  Also when looking at the "money" these kids should make do not just take into effect tuition and room and board costs.  They receive a ton of swag from bowl games (computers, ipads, tvs etc.) as well as clothing from the school as well as counseling from 6 figure nutritionists, trainers etc.  Also take into mind they get preferential treatment for class selection, housing and if you think they eat the same food as every other kid who is buried in student loan debt you are out of your mind.   

stopgo7
stopgo7

let the dude make a buck


MarkGinsburg
MarkGinsburg

Who gives a crap what he signed.  "Amateurism" is a farce in the NCAA.

CodyFox
CodyFox

I enjoy seeing those who cast stones. So you have nothing that you regret and have done no wrong

CodyFox
CodyFox

Why is all of this surfacing now? I do not understand the underlying motives unless money is involved yet again.

JustaTXguy
JustaTXguy

Growing up in TX with the SW Conf in the 60's - a guy like him was called a Dumb Aggie - appears they are still around - with all that talent - he doesn't have the sense God gave a horse to get out of the rain.

RichardDonofry
RichardDonofry

The accolades have gone to his head. He is feeling his oats because of the acclaim. He is now in the same situation as Pryor and the OSU boys. Lets see if the has the guts to handle it the same way.

Fannish
Fannish

Estimated cost for a school year for an out of state student at Alabama is $39,000. If a student gets a "full boat", that ain't bad. Not bad compensation for an amateur, plus if they care to, they can get an education too., Notre Dame estimates about $44,500. Texas A & M estimates $26,000 (without room, board, and books). So much for not being paid!

CharlesOwen
CharlesOwen

I hope this forces the courts to step in and rule that if the NCAA, ABC, NBC, CBS, ESPN, etc. can market the games, the players are entitled to royalties for the use of their likeness.  This is not an issue of whether or not he was in need of money.  It comes down to greed on the part of these entities that continue to exploit the players while chasing the all mighty dollar.  For those that would argue they are getting a free educational opportunity, I would argue the money spent on each National Letter of Intent is pennies on the dollar compared to the millions coaches and networks make each year.  There is no guarantee you will be kept on the team roster if you are a marginal player. Keep it simple... cash payments based on a percentage of the revenues each sport generates for their specific conference.

RobertSmith
RobertSmith

The NCAA Cartel refuses to relax their draconian rules ... but they conveniently ignore them. Johnny Football is worth tens of millions of dollars to Texas A&M.  He will get his $25K scholarship and have to take the rest under the table until the free market comes to college semi-pros.  

espnrefugee0218
espnrefugee0218

the nfl just needs a D league plain and simple.  Why a 9b per year enterprise gets a free labor pool called college football is ridiculous.   It wouldnt mean getting rid of college football, just like there is college baseball and a minor league system.  but have an alternative path to the nfl that leaves the NCAA (national corrupt academic association) out of it

playLIKEyourFAKEfianceJUSTdied
playLIKEyourFAKEfianceJUSTdied

"The NCAA recorded a nearly $71 million surplus for its 2012 fiscal year, according to an audited financial statement the association released Wednesday."

time to start spreading the wealth boys

beercrackin'g8r
beercrackin'g8r

At least we don't have to add to the debate that he's a black guy from the inner city who needs to make the money now before his momma gets evicted....whew...that'd be a tough one to sell....

mystafugee
mystafugee

@joeshine730 Well from an NCAA point of view he's crazy.  From a rationale point of view, he's just getting what he should be getting.  

Whatever
Whatever

@BillCampbell It is only a violation if Manziel accepts some form of payment for the signatures. If no payment is involved, he can sign anything he wants.

BillCampbell
BillCampbell

@OraPike How much is 'all that money'? Have you read something that I haven't? 

BillCampbell
BillCampbell

@DarrenWoodbury Yeah, NFL people do big crimes, like kill people, run over people with cars, beat their wives, but NEVER take money for their autograph. 

LeeMorrell
LeeMorrell

@StevenBrink And in exchange the NCAA and its member schools make BILLIONS on the play of these kids.  Do you really think it is a fair exchange?  Even huge multi-billion earners like Microsoft and Apple have profit sharing in place for employees...

StephenCurtis
StephenCurtis

@StevenBrink how has miami been swept under the rug? They have already self imposed 2 seasons of post season bans which for them included the acc title game so 3 postseason games in 2 yrs. They have reduced there scholorships for last 2 yrs also.They have been investigated for 3 yrs in which the ncaa totally broke there own rules to try to prove there guilt and right now are waiting on comitee of infractions to hand down more penalty or accept the penalties already imposed. I dont call those type of penalties swept under rug. 

StephenCurtis
StephenCurtis

@stopgo7 his parents are rich. He is the grandson of an oil barron. This isn't cam newton or some other poor inner city kid. His paren'ts are rich. make a buck his daddy can give him more money then he can ever make signing autographs. 

mystafugee
mystafugee

@CodyFox no sh-t Sherlock, of course this is about money.  You think this is about how well he signs his signature?  

kw2012
kw2012

@CharlesOwen If the courts step in, the should have a decision in about 4 years 

Tommy928
Tommy928

@RobertSmith Too late, this clown has blown his cover and needs to return the Heisman trophy and sit down and stf up. I am sure with a little looking they will find that he was signing stuff before the season ended.  Q is how many games A&M will wind up forfeiting when its all over.  It is clear Johnny football needs adult supervisions.  Second coming of Ryan Leaf. 

BillCampbell
BillCampbell

@mystafugee @CodyFox - So, Watson, HOW much money are we talking about? Everyone seems to know if he was paid or how much, even though none of the stories I have read mention money. Americans are SO quick to jump to conclusions. Like, I am sure that I will get a reply saying something like, 'Well, if you think it is OK for athletes to get rich off their reputation....'  or 'yeah, you racist, bigot (fill in your favorite epithet (look it up).......'

CodyFox
CodyFox

Mmmmmdrrrrrr (insert fart here)