Posted July 23, 2013

Report: Alex Rodriguez could face lifetime ban

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Alex Rodriguez is one of the MLB players who could be suspended as part of the league's Biogenesis investigation.

Major League Baseball reportedly has amassed a great deal of evidence against Alex Rodriguez as part of its Biogenesis investigation. (Streeter Lecka/Getty Images)

CBS Evening News’ Jim Axelrod reports Alex Rodriguez could be dealt a lifetime ban for using performance-enhancing drugs, citing Major League Baseball sources.

From CBS New York:

“My understanding is he’s trying to make a deal,” a source told the website. “But I don’t think it’s going to happen (Monday).”

Rodriguez is the biggest remaining name linked to MLB’s Biogenesis investigation following Monday’s suspension of Ryan Braun. The evidence against Rodriguez is ”far beyond” what the league had against Braun, according to ESPN.com.

CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman reported Monday Major League Baseball is expected to suspend Rodriguez at least 50 games within two to three weeks.

ROSENBERG: Ryan Braun’s weak apology looks better than Alex Rodriguez’s silence

Rodriguez admitted to using steroids before MLB’s penalties were in place, but has never been suspended. He is, however, expected to face a suspension longer than the 50 games first-time offenders must serve for violating MLB’s substance abuse policy.

Heyman reports Rodriguez declined to answer questions MLB investigators had when they interviewed Rodriguez about his connection to the Biogenesis clinic. If the league can prove Rodriguez was using performance-enhancing drugs before or after their interviews with Rodriguez, he could be facing a 150-game suspension. That’s the length reported by the New York Daily News that has been denied by Rodriguez’s representatives.


177 comments
Kenny S
Kenny S

As that pain in the as s Michael Kay likes to say, SEEEE YA!!!!!

TheDoctorIsIn
TheDoctorIsIn

The people screaming the loudest for A-Rod to be cast as an example against using PEDs through a lifetime ban are using the argument that he broke the rules. 

The rules say that A-Rod should get a 50 game suspension for first time offense.

Seems funny to me that people want MLB to break the rules to teach the players not to break the rules.

Is that irony or hypocrisy?


6marK6
6marK6

Anybody else getting a sense that MLB is not really holding any cards here? I think they bluffed Braun and he folded, but A-Rod ain't folding.

crescentparkfe
crescentparkfe

Yankees fans loved him when he first was signed by them. Yet Red Sox fans loved Roger Clemens before he played for the Yankees and was caught juicing. Strange how Red Sox & Yankees fans point the finger at each other's team players when they play on each others team. But they love them when they play on their own team. Red Sox fans and Yankees fans are the biggest hypocrites of any team fan base.

RaidLakeDodge
RaidLakeDodge

I don't like ARod, but it seems since this is his fist offense since testing was established, you have to punish him the same as any other first time offender

JohnRocha
JohnRocha

Zero chance for a lifetime ban. He's never even been suspended.  I swear the media is so full of themselves. @ Seemorebust. ~~ Ur contention is beyond ludicrous and just ignorant in itself...

horsley1953
horsley1953

Certainly Cashman is rooting for a lifetime ban.

KevinTravers
KevinTravers

Everyone was on the juice for a decade. Seems a little silly to single a few guys out and heavily punish just them.

Schmeeboo
Schmeeboo

Ha. I love how they are trying to ban a 38 year old A-Rod for life. The Yankees sure did love him when he was batting a consistent  .330 and hitting 35-40 HRs a year

jdane
jdane

Why?  What evidence?   True, the Yankees would like to get out of the bad contract that is entirely of their doing.   But A-Rod has not tested positive within the guidelines of the CBA.   And there's nothing in the CBA that says "Oh yes, and if a team overpays a player and he doesn't perform, the contract can be avoided if he is accused of taking drugs."   The fact that fans don't like him is not grounds for a 'lifetime' ban.   Also, I don't see why 'silence' is worse than the smarmy, duplicitous and hypocritical statements of Braun.

WarrenWeisman
WarrenWeisman

Hard to believe Jose Conseco was the only one telling the truth the whole time. 

Judge Smails
Judge Smails

I doubt it will happen, they'll let him retire first.

bizmodo
bizmodo

If a llifetime ban means the Yankees don't have to pay the rest of his contract, then the Red Sox, Rays, Orioles and Blue Jays strongly believe ARod deserves another chance.

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

I hear A-Rod is going to fight. What's the over/under on how many people he smears in an attempt to save his arse?

AlliSeeisRed
AlliSeeisRed

Somebody has to be the poster child for MLB's stance against PED's. Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe are the examples for gambling. A-Rod will be this generation's Pete Rose.

Washheightsboy
Washheightsboy

The offer to settle (if there was one) must have been very, very long.  At Alex's age, it's essentially a lifetime ban, so he's going to fight it and try and Braun his way out of it.  I would not be shocked by a lifetime ban if they have proof he tried to destroy evidence.

IndependentsDay
IndependentsDay

I see a one year ban tops.  No way its more than that.  I'd bet the Packer's A-Rod's salary for a year on it.  

TontisAcheater
TontisAcheater

Melky Cabrera tested positive.  Melky's representative then created a fake supplement and vitamin website on which to blame the positive test.  

That seems like a cover-up.  Melky received the collectively bargained 50 game suspension and was free to sign a new multimillion dollar contract with the Toronto Blue Jays.

How exactly is ARod different other than the fact ARod hasn't tested positive like Melky did?

ambassgray
ambassgray

As much as I am not an A Rod fan, and am glad that the MLB is finally cracking down on PEDs, Rodriquez does not deserve a lifetime ban unless he was part owner of this Biogenesis company.  Why?  The MLB has already set precedent with Braun as to the punishment that should be handed out.  Braun deserves the harshest sentence out of anyone!  It seems that the MLB forgot the entire, Ryan Braun denying ever using PEDs, and subsequent lawsuit after receiving a 50 game suspension for his initial positive test of PEDs.  Braun's response after getting the suspension overturned was this..."It is the first step in restoring my good name and reputation. We were able to get through this because I am innocent and the truth is on our side."  At the same time, Alex Rodriguez admitted to using PEDs, but never had a positive test.  Why would Rodriquez now receive a lifetime ban, while Braun is only banned for the remainder of the season?  I smell a rat...

Voiceover310
Voiceover310

So there is a possibility that we will never get to see A-Rod strike out with the bases loaded again?!?! I'm heartbroken!! This is just ridiculous!! If he is involved in a massive cover up and guilty of using PED's AGAIN then give the guy the boot!! Void his contract with the Yankees and let them move on with the business of baseball. 

drudown
drudown

Oh please.

Nearly ALL the modern MLB players have likely taken some PEDs. Nobody is clean. It is driven by greed. The will to succeed. 

Let's forget the notion "these" players are juiced...but not the rest. 

"Everyone acts according to self-interest." - Gracian

PhillyPenn
PhillyPenn

I want ARod punished but I don't want the Yankees to get a free pass on his contract.  That's hardly fair, I mean they signed it, they should have it count against the luxury tax at least (even if they aren't paying it).  

muser
muser

A lifetime ban isn't long enough for this slime bag. 

JenMillerNovak
JenMillerNovak

This is a bit sad for me.  I feel like he will end his life if he can't play.  With that being said....if his contract is void, I would please like Manny Machado to call Brian Cashman.  Thank you.

NeoSmith
NeoSmith

As much as I hate A-Roids, I have to say ... why help the Yankees morons for signing him to that ridiculous contract?!!  The Yankees should be saddled with that albatross until the very day it ends. 

NY NBK Far Superior
NY NBK Far Superior

Lifetime ban means no paycheck

No Paycheck means more money to spend

More money to spend equals better team

Better team equals early christmas gift for yankee fans everywhere including THIS GUY!

bdbd1983
bdbd1983

Ya he cheated several times, but so did 100's of players. Big Mac admitted to using steroids for most of his career and he is a hitting coach. A ridiculous double standard by MLB, I hope he takes MLB to court and he better hope his union goes to bat for him, it will set quite a precedent. 

seemorebust1
seemorebust1

@Schmeeboo  perhaps you should check some facts.  Arod  over .300  only three times in his Yankee career and he hit more than 35 HR's only three times. Not to mention he was almost a complete flop in the playoffs for the Yankees.   I contend that without PED's  Arod would not even have been good enough to play in the majors.

peoriaboy
peoriaboy

@WarrenWeisman I have to wonder how many of these reporters and team owners smoke dope   do some cocaine  take viagra to perform on ,tell me the difference after all this 2013 and all athletics are catered to way more than those of the past by a long shot,do you think any of those women tennis players that throw  aroid rage ever got checked for roods way back  when up to today ,hell no.

joe6647
joe6647

@IndependentsDay lolol...still wondering if Rodgers will follow thru with at least a charitable donation on his bet

Washheightsboy
Washheightsboy

@TontisAcheater I think the back breaker here is the story that Alex tried to buy the evidence from the clinic so he could destroy it.  That's bad.

joe6647
joe6647

@ambassgray seems like A-rod has been less willing to strike a deal with MLB in the relatively timely fashion that Braun had with MLB.  Also reports seem to indicate theres more evidence against Rodriguez than there is against Braun.  

Put those factors together and it seems like A-Rod would be in line for a 100 game suspension at least because MLB would want to set an example against a player trying to hide their wrongdoings at the expense of MLB's image

friarbutch
friarbutch

@drudown #1 - you have no evidence of this whatsoever.  #2 - even if it were true, what does that matter?  Nearly "all" adults have driven drunk at some time in their lives, or stolen something.  Does that mean that we don't punish the people who get caught, and when the offense is particularly significant, we don't punish them severely?  The steroid apologists never cease to crack me up.

peoriaboy
peoriaboy

@muser But yet you support all the famous singers that put a good amount of money up their nose  not to mention the movie stars ,you can condone this act go out and buy all their records and movies but a ball player does something to enhance his game and believe me we can go back to the mid sixties  and put every ball player on a lie detector and you will find that a lot of those that are in the hall of fame will show that they have lied or deceptive about what they took

mole49ers
mole49ers

@JenMillerNovak yeah.. what will he do with his hundreds of millions of dollars if he can't play baseball.  There are limited options... killing himself is the likely first option.  I see how you came up with that.

Voiceover310
Voiceover310

@JenMillerNovak End his life?? What the heck are you talking about? It's just a game!! and a boring one at that. Baseball is not a life or death situation. Unless you are a Marlins fan then it pretty much is but everyone else is just fine. 

mikegab72
mikegab72

@NeoSmith The Yankees signed the contract in 2007, before A-Rod admitted to doing steroids.  So, in a very real sense, they were signing a player under false pretenses. 


NY NBK Far Superior
NY NBK Far Superior

After all the trouble the MLB is going through to get him lifetime banned there is .01% chance they lift it a few years from now IF they lifetime ban him of course

MattBugaj
MattBugaj

@bdbd1983 this guy voted for Obama. Everyone is bad, so let's let everyone get away with everything.

NeoSmith
NeoSmith

@bdbd1983 The player's union has already said that it will no longer fight for the rights of PED users.  Apparently the non-PED players finally have had enough and told the union to stop protecting cheaters or else they are all going to get fired.  AND IT'S ABOUT TIME!  The cheating SOBs just makes all the legitimate players look horrible when they have a break out year.  Now, every time it happens, it's "So this guy is on PEDs, huh?" 

Korzagg
Korzagg

Sounds like A Rods suspension is more about him trying to buy the documents and destroy them before they went public, then it is about his use of drugs

ambassgray
ambassgray

@joe6647 Braun has been lying up until now, and sued MLB after receiving a 50 game ban.  How was he not trying to hide any of his wrong doings? I am good with 100..even 150 game suspension for Rodriguez if the evidence supports that, but a lifetime ban?  I can't justify that since it was MLB itself who let this go on unpunished, and glorified the PED users for so long..

drudown
drudown

@friarbutch @drudown 

Ps. it is disingenuous to contend that someone that dispassionately accepts the commercial reality is a "steroid apologist" or asserts that people caught shouldn't be punished. Those are your thoughts, not mine.

drudown
drudown

@friarbutch @drudown 

Hmm. Maybe you are right. Maybe it isn't as widespread as empirical evidence suggests. Then again...

When I see tracks in the snow, I still "know" an animal passed by without direct evidence. 

After the Blue Angels show, I can still see the circumstantial evidence of their flight path. 

You can play the "doe out of the woods" bit all you like. But when allegations of PED use surface for even the most sacrosanct or revered name...remember it is your sense of fair play and substantial justice that led you to believe that honor comes before achievement in the game.

"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep." - Saul Bellow

ambassgray
ambassgray

@joe6647 @ambassgray I agree..that was my point.  A life time ban is too much unless he is part of this organization, and getting a bunch of players involved in cheating.  Braun worked the system, and then lied to everyone about his being not guilty of using PEDs. If this all occurred prior to the failed drug test that originally suspended him...I think MLB should go after a reversal on the overturned ruling, and make Braun serve the initial 50 games before serving this additional 65.  

joe6647
joe6647

@ambassgray @joe6647Braun avoided his wrongdoings through a loophole in the legal system by luck I would say.  The 2nd time he was caught he knew there was no loophole to save him so he negotiated a 65 game ban.


Rodriguez has reportedly tried to destroy evidence that associates himself with Biogenesis.  If MLB has substantial evidence of this,  hes caught and knows the legal system and the loopholes Braun used wont save him if reports are true.  


Like I said 100 games seems like a fair number to me.  Lifetime ban id assume the MLBPA would fight