Posted July 10, 2013

Report: MLB expected to suspend Alex Rodriguez, Ryan Braun among others after All-Star break

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Ryan Braun, 2011 National League MVP, reportedly has refused to answer MLB investigators. (Hannah Foslien/Getty Images)

Ryan Braun, 2011 National League MVP, reportedly has refused to answer questions from MLB investigators regarding his connection to the Biogenesis PED scandal. (Hannah Foslien/Getty Images)

Major League Baseball is expected to suspend as many as 20 players including Ryan Braun and Alex Rodriguez sometime after next week’s All-Star break, according to “Outside the Lines.”

Braun, the 2011 National League Most Valuable Player, has repeatedly denied using performance-enhancing drugs and refused to answer questions during a recent meeting with Major League Baseball about his connection to Tony Bosch and the Biogenesis clinic in Miami, sources told “Outside the Lines.”

From ESPN:

The meeting took place June 29, a source said, and is one of several that MLB has conducted with players connected to the clinic. A source said Alex Rodriguez has not been interviewed, but a meeting is expected to take place within the week.

Major League Baseball began investigating players linked to a Miami New Times report on illegal PEDs obtained through the clinic run by Bosch, and began building cases against the players last month after Bosch agreed to cooperate with investigators.

More from the ESPN report:

Bosch’s attorneys have met repeatedly with MLB officials over the past month, turning over numerous documents to substantiate his connection to the players named in company documents, sources have said.

While sources would not detail what Bosch has turned over, he was expected to provide phone, text, email and other records.

LEMIRE: Fallout from Biogenesis may mar second half of season

In 2005, Major League Baseball and the players’ union agreed to 50-game suspensions for first offenses of the league’s drug police including steroid and amphetamine use, increasing to 100 games for a second offense and a lifetime ban for a third. “Outside the Lines” sources say the league is considering 100-game suspensions for Braun and Rodriguez even though neither player has been banned for a first offense. From the report:

The question is the length of the suspensions.

Sources said the commissioner’s office was considering 100-game bans for Braun and Rodriguez, the punishment for a second offense, even though neither player was previously suspended for violating MLB’s drug policy.

The argument, one source said, would be that they — and possibly other players — committed multiple offenses by receiving performance-enhancing drugs from Bosch and by lying about it.


42 comments
babycassius22
babycassius22

Theres still time for a-rod to pass Aarons home run record. Just because he's vain and hangs out with his own kind at fountain of youth labs, doesn't make him a criminal. He also still has a chance at passing Reggie Jacksons all time most strikeouts record too. Let him subjugate and eradicate all these hallowed achievements by others. It's the American way !

rhymeister
rhymeister

We, who aren't naive, knew Braun was a cheater and got off on a technicality.  Shame on him for bringing all the guilt onto the tester for his FIRST positive test.

yankeedave
yankeedave

To those who say, "I don't care what the players do, if it helps them, fine, I don't have a problem with it" - I have two question. First, if you had a kid who was getting into sports, is that the message you want your kid to learn? That it's OK to put anything in your body, even if it's illegal (I don't mean against the rules, I mean against the law) and may damage your health in the long run, as long as you can get ahead? And second, what about the guys who choose to play by the rules and abide by the law, and don't put this crap into their bodies? Why should they have to compete against rule breakers and law breakers? Why should they be put in the position of having to choose whether or not to risk their long-term health to stay competitive with the PED users? Why should they have to be suspected of PED use when they legitimately rack up great numbers?

James C
James C

I think MLB had better just go with 50 games on this. 100 games will likely get them into a big court battle and it is one they may not win. The agreement is pretty clear that a first violation is 50 games. Arguing that they committed multiple violations simply will not work. It's like saying someone drove drunk 20 years ago, but was never convicted of DUI for that violation. Even if they did, but were only arrested for the second one 20 years later, they have still only been arrested for the first time. 


Now what MLB might be able to do, based on the agreement is a 50 game suspension for a first time violation plus and additional suspension for lying to MLB investigators. 


I suspect no matter what happens you will see this entire mess end up in the legal system before any suspensions are served. By the time it winds through the courts A-Rod will be retired I think. 

Shooter McGavin 19711
Shooter McGavin 19711

Here's a fact for all the steroid cheat apologists who believe the players will get off because this issue doesn't involve drug testing.

Under the current agreement which the players signed on for - all players are prohibited from using, POSSESSING, selling, facilitating the sale of, distributing or facilitating the distribution of various banned substances.  

Lets see if those of you who support the players and their union can figure out how MLB will be able to suspend players without having tested positive.  Come on, you can do it.  It's not that hard.  I even provided a hint for ya.

Good job!!  

Have a nice vacation Braun, ARod and the other cheats.

RobOlds
RobOlds

Just because an athlete doesn't test positive, that doesn't mean he hasn't used steroids or HGH.  Take a look at Lance Armstrong, who passed over 500 tests.  Baseball needs to either legalize steroids or ban these guys for life.  MLB can't have it both ways.

billybob
billybob

If Bosch is their only source then the players association need to go to court to stop the suspensions.Bosch would lie to save his own a$$

KristopherLohmuller
KristopherLohmuller

If i receive 50 guns, it doesn't mean I killed any one. Even if these people 'received' performance enhancing substances, if they haven't tested positive there should be no way they get suspended. I don't particularly care for any of them, but you cannot punish someone for something you can't prove they did.

BobBell
BobBell

Braun will probably claim his suspension notice spent too long at the Post Office so he doesn't have to serve it.

rbeane1956
rbeane1956

MLB better have there Layers ready the lawsuits will fly if they try suspending player with out any hard evidence.

From all I have read so far it just the word of the Bosch guy who the MLB sued to turn evidence. They better have hard data or they are going to get the $$$ kicked out of them in court.

JasonMacBride
JasonMacBride

Good luck making the suspensions stick MLB. The Player's Union will have them back on the field pronto.

Mike26
Mike26

Selig is 17 years too late on the PED thing....

MikeHarrison
MikeHarrison

Its going to be fun watching Ryan Braun cry like a baby.  If I were MLB, I would say "you already failed once, just never got suspended because of a technicality", but a fail is still a fail.  


I can't wait to also hear the whining from A-Rod's camp as well, thats if he can pull himself away from the mirror

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Why talk to A-Rod? He lies every time he talks about PED's.

Joe R2
Joe R2

Braun is a fraud

fusterclunk
fusterclunk

@James C 50 games for the drug use and 50 games for lying to the investigators from the Commissioner's Office.

slackfoomaster
slackfoomaster

@James C  OK if the league suspends any of the players on the list I would think they have a good law suit stating that this man Bosch is a liar,theif and crook and who know's if he is making up alot of this stuff just to get in the lime light. Bosch has had plenty of time to make up and doctor his "BOOKS" so to speak to make them say whatever he wants them to say and i cant think the league will believe anything this man has to say.....If I was any of these players that may get fined and suspended over this I would already have my lawyer drawing up a law suit against MLB and Bosch to try and block the fines and suspensions....Doesn't the rule say you have to fail a drug test to get the suspensions anyway's and not just the word of a crook, theif and liar.....I really hope the players involved file a suit against MLB to stop the commish from having absolute power....If the commish gets away with this I believe it will ruin Baseball and the last thing we need is for this particular commish to be drunk with power, he does anything and everything he wants and he needs to be stopped and knocked off that HIGH HORSE he has been perched on since he took office, take him down guys....GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!

rmeeboy69@yahoo.com
rmeeboy69@yahoo.com

@Shooter McGavin 19711 @ Shooter McGavin....I saw your hint but here is the problem, if the player never failed a test then how can you say or prove they were in "POSSESION"? MLB is probably not gonna win this when it all boils down to it. Do i think A Rod did ever use PEDs, YES (HE ALREADY ADMITTED IT, LOL). Has he ever failed a test under the "new rules"...NO.....This is the samething as saying that he went to the GNC store and purchased something that was "ILLEGAL" but didnt use it cuz he may have got it for his wife/GF. point is this...if he didnt/hasnt failed a test then MLB realy doesnt have any ground to stand on........even if his name came up with some "illegal" company, lol.....what a joke this is


slackfoomaster
slackfoomaster

@Shooter McGavin 19711 I really don't care if any and all player's are using PED'S, I don't have any problems with any player who wants to use the MED'S to possible be a better player. The one thing I don't understand is HGH. This hormone is designed to help a person heal faster and better and I would think that any owner would want HGH out there for his player's to use to heal faster and better. I have used HGH after my last back surgery, my doctor prescribed it to me and it is working great for me and I have talked to alot of people and alot are doctors that have no problems giving there patients HGH, if taken correctly and is watched by a doctor there is nothing wrong with its use......So once again I cant believe that the owner's of any pro sports teams dont vote for the use of HGH, I think it would be a very good thing for there player's to use so they can get healed better and faster then they are now....I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.....

slackfoomaster
slackfoomaster

@RobOlds OK that make's no sense, to be able to ban a player for 50, 100 or life you need a positive test to prove that a player tested positive, without that positive test you cant prove that any wrong doing had taken part. If you just take someone's word that he sold or gave PED'S to any one player without the proof( ie: the positve test) then I cant see how any suspension  can be legal....They have an agreement and at this point they cant prove that anyone of these guys they listed have tested positive for anything that i have heard......I guess we will wait and see....I really dont care if any or all the players in any sport wants to use HGH or any other PED'S as long as they are working with a doctor is cool with me.....Thats just my personal side of things....GOOD LUCK GUYS.....SEE YA ALL ON TV......

jdane
jdane

@RobOlds Oh right.  And just because you haven't been convicted of sodomizing your father doesn't mean you didn't do it.

slackfoomaster
slackfoomaster

@billybob I AGREE WITH YOU BILLYBOB 100%......Bosch would sell his own mother to make a buck....

Shooter McGavin 19711
Shooter McGavin 19711

@billybob Nah.  Braun already threw someone else under the bus to protect himself.  And ARod has lied dozens of times.  I'm sure that there are phone converstations, paperwork, a money trail and emails which tie these cheaters to Bosch.  Otherwise, MLB wouldn't attempt to suspend the cheats.

Alleymattie
Alleymattie

You are a fool. Guns are legal, PED are not.

decredico
decredico

@KristopherLohmuller You not a very bright person, are you?  Just getting illegal drugs, even if they are not used, is a crime, fool.  

You just another ignorant denialist.

Shooter McGavin 19711
Shooter McGavin 19711

@KristopherLohmuller If you received 50 guns, you would in fact be charged with illegal possession of weapons, unless you were some sort of gun dealer - or had paperwork on said guns.  Of course, the drugs that these players are going to be charged with are also illegal - and for the record, if they were in possession of illegal drugs, they can in fact be suspended by MLB.  Let me guess, you work for the ACLU - where you think everyone is innocent unless there is a video of them committing said crime, with a running dialogue from the alleged crook, detailing their state of mind at the exact moment they committed the alleged crime.



Shooter McGavin 19711
Shooter McGavin 19711

@JasonMacBride Nope.  The suspensions will stick.  Not sure if you've been paying attention, but there is paperwork, a money trail and emails tying these players to the clinic.  They are busted.  About time.

decredico
decredico

@Mike26 More like 40 years .... the stuff been in play since the late 70's

SEE: LYLE ALZADO

James C
James C

@MikeHarrison MLB will be in serious legal trouble if they try using the previous "failed" test in suspending him 100 games. The ruling is pretty clear under all rule codes with drug testing. When a test result is invalidated for ANY REASON, is does not exist. Using something that doesn't exist will not fly under the appeals process nor in a court of law which is where any of these suspensions will likely end up. 

bobbyburke83
bobbyburke83

@yankeedave Its not the responsibility of MLB or anyone other than a child's parents to instill morals and teach what is "right or wrong". What about the people who feel it's "wrong" that we have laws that tell us what we can and can not put into our bodies? If you want your kid to have those standards of living teach it to them. And be your kid's hero and role model your an idiot if you think that role should be an athlete. 

buffalo_markley
buffalo_markley

@slackfoomaster @James C Baseball's already been ruined by PED's. If Bosch is indeed a "crook, liar & thief" what does that say about the players who associated with him? Honestly, I wish MLB had a zero tolerance rule. You're caught, you're out forever. I'd be up to the union or the player to prove their innocence on appeal. Not MLB's job to prove your guilt.

Ha_Hanson
Ha_Hanson

@slackfoomaster LOL.. give it up. We know it's you, Ryan... no need to use an alias you lyin sack of....

rmeeboy69@yahoo.com
rmeeboy69@yahoo.com

@jdane @RobOlds wow...is that what happened to you. are you mad cuz u got sodomized but ur son got off?.....SERIOUSLY.....THAT WAS A BAD EXAMPLE TO USE ON YOUR PART. Point being.....he (a-rod) never failed a test (which happens to be the RULE). the rule doesnt say anything bout some 3rd party "illegal company" throwing your name out there n you being "ASSOCIATED" with them, lol....DUH!!!!! MLB will lose this by a land slide, lmao......even a  freaking "Public Defender" could get someone off on this STUPID suspension.



Ruhal
Ruhal

 @Shooter McGavin 19711 Why the ACLU hate? They protect you and your right to spew any drivel you like on any forum you see fit, by making sure that the Civil Liberty laws and clauses (You know, the Bill of Rights and the Citizenship and Due Process amendments?) in the US Constitution are enforced for everyone, including you? ...and yeah, it is a good idea that everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That way, when you get accused of sodomizing your pet goat, prosecutors have to really prove you did it with solid evidence, such as the homemade video of you sodomizing said goat that you keep, your personally signed and handwritten North American Man-Goat Lover's Association manifesto that tells the world how you have sodomized your goat or any other admissible evidence.

yankeedave
yankeedave

@bobbyburke83 @yankeedave 

Bobby,

I'm not talking about somebody being a role model off the field. But PED use goes directly to how you play the game. And to ignore it, even though it's against the rules and against the law, is to say it's OK in this league to cheat to get ahead. That's unfair to players who don't cheat, a point you chose not to respond to. And while it's not MLB's responsibility to teach morals to my kid, I do think that MLB should set a tone of fairness and justice. Even from a purely economic standpoint, it's in MLB's self-interest to be seen as a socially responsible, ethical organization.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

@Ruhal @Shooter McGavin 19711  

Gracious, I didn't realize that the ACLU was the Constitution.

That's why they're screaming bloody murder because Obamacare gives the government unlimited access to everyone's medical, financial, and other personal records.  Oh, wait.  Never mind.