Posted July 03, 2013

Jonathan Papelbon on Yasiel Puig’s possible All-Star inclusion: ‘It’s an absolute joke’

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Dodgers outfielder Yasiel Puig is getting some All-Star Game consideration. (Lisa Blumenfeld/Getty Images)

Dodgers outfielder Yasiel Puig is getting some All-Star Game consideration. (Photo by Lisa Blumenfeld/Getty Images)

Los Angeles Dodgers right fielder Yasiel Puig is starting to get some All-Star consideration after batting .436 with seven home runs and 16 RBIs in the month of June.

There is at least one person who has said publicly that he isn’t for the 22-year old’s inclusion on the All-Start team.

Philadelphia Phillies reliever Jonathan Papelbon says putting Puig on the National League All-Star team would be a mistake.

“To me, it’s an absolute joke,” Papelbon told MLB Network Radio when asked about Puig’s All-Star candidacy. “It’s really kind of stupid if you ask me.

“The guy’s got a month, I don’t even think he’s got a month in the big leagues,” Papelbon said during the interview. “Just comparing him to this and that, and saying he’s going to make the All-Star team, that’s a joke to me.”

But Papelbon did not pitch against the Dodgers when the Phillies came to town last weekend. It’s a good thing, because Puig went 7-for-16 and scored five runs in the series.

The Dodgers went 15-11 in the 26 games since Puig’s arrival and currently sit 3.5 games back in the National League West behind the division leader Arizona Diamondbacks.


84 comments
Michael10
Michael10

If Yasiel Puig deserves to go the the All Star Game, Bo Jackson deserves to go to the Hall of Fame...

muscatel96
muscatel96

I agree with Papelbon.  Puig hasn't put in enough time to play in the game... but if they wanted to bring him to the Home Run Derby, that would be fine.

mahi2mahi
mahi2mahi

Why can't this rich crybaby pitchers ever learn to keep their traps shut.

JakeSedlacek
JakeSedlacek

Puig has played over 200 innings in that month... How many did papplebon play when he was selected as a rookie in boston? 48! 48 innings is better the 200? I don't think so. VOTE FOR PUIG!

Julius2
Julius2

Listen! Jason Kipnis hit .419 in June with 4 HRs and won AL Player of the month and he probably won't be in the ASG. End of story. 1 month is only 1 month. 

AndyShinn
AndyShinn

I noticed Papelbon waited until AFTER the series with the Dodgers to publicly trash Puig. Coward.

And for those who say Puig doesn't have enough time in the Majors yet,  how may at-bats are considered enough? How many games played makes him eligible?

solor102
solor102

Mike Trout was an All Star last year wiht similar credentials. He only had about a month in the league as well. You have to include him.

Vinny Cordoba
Vinny Cordoba

Thanks for sharing, Jon. Now go back to the island of Irrelevance and kindly bleep yourself.

GroverSage
GroverSage

This is classic Papelbon. We might as well get Rush Limbaughs opinion.


BillJones
BillJones

Since the ASG is for home field in the WS why not?  I have forgotten a lot of baseball history but one manager put a midget in the game so he would draw a walk.

jffsgl
jffsgl

Jeff Francoeur's first month in the bigs was a lot like Puig's.  Papelbon is right.

Sportsfan_Adam
Sportsfan_Adam

Hi.  I'm Jon Papelbon.  I went to the All Star game my rookie year.   I play one inning every three or four days.  Sometimes I throw up to 40 pitches in one week!  But, I definitely think its wrong for someone who hasn't put in the time to go to an All Star Game.  Even if he is the person most fans would want to see.  Also, I'm an idiot.

Julius2
Julius2

Well he hit .313 at AA with 8 homers the entire beginning of the year. Yes he's a good player but plenty of players have great months and don't replicate that the rest of the year. If he's that great then he can prove it in 2014 and earn the right to play in the game. On the other hand I think it's ridiculous that some players like Derek Jeter win the top spot every year with below average statistics because of popularity. I guess either way it's not a perfect system. 

Sportsfan_Adam
Sportsfan_Adam

Bo doesn't need to be in the Hall of fame.  He is already the most "famous" athlete to play baseball in the past 50 years.  Bo Jackson has his own Hall of fame.  Its called "Being Bo Jackson."  But if the All-Star game, which determines home field advantage, is to truly display the players that are playing the best baseball at the halfway mark of the season, Puig deserves to go.  Its not like we looking at a sample size of 20 lucky at bats.  The guy has gone to the plate over 100 times, and is succeeding at an incredible rate.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@mahi2mahi So you should be able to babble all over the www but a player should not be able to voice his opinion?  Nice logic.

GroverSage
GroverSage

@mahi2mahi 

I think he's practicing for a attempt at politics when he gets cut from MLB pretty soon.

hehehe

John4
John4

@JakeSedlacek While the Papelbon comment was mean, comparing Puig's month to a month of Papelbon's is not a valid comparison.  Puig is having a great introduction to the major leagues.  Is it worthy of an All Star game spot?  I don't think so.  That said, Papelbon has a lot to learn about tact.  

Michael10
Michael10

@JakeSedlacek You know enough to locate Papelbon's season splits from his secondyear in the majors but not enough to realize that 48 innings from a closer at the All-Star break (and a rookie closer at that) is phenomenal? (He had 26 saves and an 0.59 ERA, for those who are curious -- the guy produced 5.0 Wins Above Replacement as a reliever!)

Comparing a reliever to a position player base on innings is almost as absurd as comparing home runs to touchdowns -- or a one month phenom to an everyday All-Star...

RyanPalmer
RyanPalmer

@Julius2 - I don't know about the rest of you, but I've been able to watch a few Dodger games since Puig has come up and the excitement he brings with him is absolutely contagious and captivating and despite what everybody has been saying around here, the All-Star Game isn't about contract size, stats, name recognition, it is about votes by the fans and decisions by the manager.  I would put Puig on as a fan because right now there aren't three other NL outfielders I would rather see take the field than him. I hope he is able to keep up his pace but either way, I'll continue to be a fan of his as long as he plays with that much excitement and enthusiasm.

John4
John4

@Julius2 This IS a valid comparison.  Well put.  Yours is one of the most intelligent comments I have read on this site in a long time.  

IAmDT
IAmDT

@Julius2 "he probably won't be in the ASG"

I disagree. He got all of my 35 votes this year. Bet you he's on the bench even though 2B is the deepest position in the AL.

Michael10
Michael10

@AndyShinn There is no minimum requirement for selection, just a century of precedent. Players have never been considered for significant baseball honors --All Star, MVP, Cy Young, Gold Glove, ROY, etc. -- based on a single month's stats. The only honors with minimum requirements are rate stat titles like batting championships, ERA crowns. Puig's season could end tonight and he could receive MVP votes (and there are yahoos out there who would give them to him), but that doesn't mean the baseball establishment is going to support the claims. 

The guys who play and manage the game generally have a much better idea of who "deserves" the sports' highest honors than the fans and writers ever will...

Michael10
Michael10

@solor102 Trout had played 64 games (to Puig's 27) and had maintained a .341 average and .959 OPS over three times as many plate appearances (more plate appearances than even Buster Posey had at the AS break). Trout had also doubled up (or better) all of Puig's counting stats and swiped 26 bases to boot. 

As much as it pains me to defend Mike Trout, you'll have to find a more accurate comparison than that...

GroverSage
GroverSage

@BillJones

The World Series home field advantage is the only thing now....not the egos of jerk athletes. Puig is a starter for the Dodgers because he produces NOW. It's gonna be a real test of character for Bochy to see if he really wants to win or just play games.....

GroverSage
GroverSage

@jffsgl 

Francoeur's personal failure has nothing to do with Piug's future.

Michael10
Michael10

@Sportsfan_AdamWell, I'll certainly agree with that last part.

You do realize that 48 innings from a closer at the All-Star break (and a rookie closer at that) is phenomenal? (Especially considering he had 26 saves and an 0.59 ERA -- the guy produced 5.0 Wins Above Replacement as a reliever that season!)

Comparing a reliever to a position player based on innings is almost as absurd as comparing home runs to touchdowns -- it's, well you nailed it, idiotic...

PAZSKY
PAZSKY

@Julius2 Yeah, because Jeter just absolutely sucks, right? Idiot..

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@GroverSage Good one.  You sure told him.   2-0, 18 saves, and and ERA of 1.87.   Somehow I don't that job security is an issue for this guy.   Keep tossing out those zingers though.  Maybe you will throw him off his game.

Julius2
Julius2

@IAmDT @Julius2 Yes I did too but it will be hard for him to get in because of name recognition. People automatically choose the big names and don't pay much attention to stats. 

John4
John4

@GroverSage @Julius2 Grover - a player's salary has NOTHING to do with whether to not he goes to the All Star Game.  eg - Albert Pujols, Josh Hamilton, Alex Rodriguez.    

Michael10
Michael10

@GroverSage @BillJones Why will Bochy care who has home field advantage during the World Series? The Giants will be home every night either way...

Daniel B.
Daniel B.

@PAZSKY @Julius2 He didn't say he sucks.  He said he gets All-Star bids even in off seasons because of his name instead of actually earning it.  Idiot..

Julius2
Julius2

@PAZSKY @Julius2 Even when he has down years he gets in and leads all voters, he will until he completely declines. It doesn't make sense. Of course he doesn't suck. Idiot....

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@mahi2mahi Sure they do. Doesn't mean that they cannot have one off the field as well.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@GroverSage An attempt?  Facts is facts. The guy will not be looking for a job anytime soon.  I don't care he, Yasiel Puig, or any other player make the all-star team.  It has become a mediocre sideshow.  But if you think that you got me, on an anonymous internet forum no less, well then kudos for that.  The only issue being, if you have to tell someone that you got them, you probably haven't.

John4
John4

@GroverSage Grover - careful about your misinformation about Albert Pujols.  His stats for the first 11 years of his career are among the top 8-9 ALL TIME.  When he is elected to the HOF, it will have NOTHING to do with his salary.  Could you also PLEASE stay on topic?  Note also that you have NO defense for your salary/HOF (incorrect) comment when Mike Hampton and Barry Zito are mentioned.  Your comments are not intelligent, and basically wrong due to their faulty reasoning. 

John4
John4

@GroverSage Grover - some of your comments do not make a lot of sense.  

Michael10
Michael10

@GroverSage @John4 @Julius2 Salary has everything to do with Hall of Fame election?

Move over Koufax and Drysdale...here come Mike Hampton and Barry Zito!

GroverSage
GroverSage

@John4 @GroverSage @Julius2 

...but it has everything to do with being voted into the Hall of Fame. Albert, Alex are there. Josh has a few more years......and Yasiel......the future looks bright indeed.

Yasile Puig is an All-Star!

GroverSage
GroverSage

@Michael10 @GroverSage @jffsgl 

You must WANT your 'team' to lose the home field advantage for the World Series. Can't say I wouldn't be surprised, with the nature of trolls and all.


Yasiel Puig is an All-Star!