Posted June 02, 2013

NCAA President Mark Emmert on creating new division for big football schools: ‘right thing to do’

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NCAA president Mark Emmert discussed a possible fourth subdivision with Big 12 leaders earlier this week. (Bloomberg/Getty Images)

NCAA president Mark Emmert discussed a possible fourth subdivision with Big 12 leaders earlier this week. (Bloomberg/Getty Images)

NCAA president Mark Emmert met with Big 12 leaders Wednesday to discuss problems larger NCAA schools are having within the NCAA framework.

The result could be a fourth subdivision within the NCAA.

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said during the meeting that larger schools have problems unique to them among college athletic institutions. From Chron.com:

“I wouldn’t say they’re outraged or up in arms,” Dodds said. “I just think they’re concerned, and somehow the NCAA needs to federate in a way that people with common programs can vote on their programs.”

There’s speculation the fourth subdivision would include schools/teams from the so-called “power five” football conferences: SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 and Big 12.

Emmert acknowledged the economic disparity between major and minor football schools is a growing concern. Texas led all NCAA schools with $163.3 million in athletic revenue in 2012, while Louisiana-Monroe had the smallest revenue of $11.3 million.

The fourth subdivision would not fully cure the growing problems in the NCAA, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby noted. From Chron.com’s report:

“It would be unforthright to say that people aren’t concerned and frustrated with the legislative process and the governance processes,” Bowlsby said. “I just think there’s a general uneasiness, and I haven’t heard anybody that’s got the master plan that fixes it all.”

Emmert noted the fourth subdivision could work within the NCAA framework, but that it was the member institutions to make the change. From Chron.com:

“That’s not my decision,” he said. “That’s the members’ decision. And I hope they look at it. I think it would be healthy and the right thing to do.”

Despite concerns about differences in size of schools, Bowlsby said he didn’t sense any eagerness from schools to withdraw, saying everyone is committed to the NCAA while still looking for ways to improve it.


17 comments
Ciscos
Ciscos

I've FedEx'ed a box of Huggies diapers to Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds.  The big baby is FOS.

muser
muser

A bigger concern is a "Power" school losing to one of those "weaker" schools in a bowl game again...

Todd Gee
Todd Gee

This is a few trying to control the money, plain and simple.  Just plain disgusting...

modsuperstar
modsuperstar

So basically they want to create a Premier League like they did in English Soccer. Make it so the rich get richer and keep the riff raff in the lower levels. Sounds about right.

MG2_76
MG2_76

I am so sick of "amateur" sports.  It makes me sick.  They need to call it what it really is a feeding ground for the NFL/CFL etc of professional sports leagues.  I can't even watch without being sick to my stomach.  

bilmar318
bilmar318

It would make more sense for the big schools & conferences to break away from the NCAA completely.  Why should they pay idiots like Emmert for the right to play sports?

gwhjelm
gwhjelm

Daniel19, I think that this is the worst thing that could happen to college sports. This is going to severely impact the number of scholarships available for any sport played in the NCAA.  Eventually, all of the schools who are not in the super conference will have to drop back to the division 1 or 2 level for football. Without being able to schedule games in the super conference, then all of these programs will die on the vine. The schools who have tried to upgrade their facilities will be stuck with huge costs for these improvements. This means that the taxpayer is stuck with the bills, because the greed for money and power is out of control at the super conference level. This will also reflect in the number of sports that will be played, and scheduled. The days of traveling to the mid west to play a storied school like Ohio State will come to a close, and because of title nine fewer sports will be played to bring the costs into line. It was those big football games that allowed schools to have many men's and women's sports at the NCAA level. Yes, Boise State and a few other schools will move-on to play in these conferences, but I don't think that it will be a happy day in the NCAA overall. In a different area of this decision, is a possible class action lawsuit to prohibit this move by all of the other conferences, in the NCAA. I am not an attorney, and I don't exactly know how the federal law works, but it is a possibility that anti-trust could come to fruition. The last thing on my laundry list is the fact that many schools may move to leave the NCAA, and form a new oversight organization. This would practically doom the NCAA, and the enactment of the super conference could speed this decision. What ever now happens with the membership, scheduling, and playing of football schools in the NCAA has changed the landscape for players, coaches, and universities in America.

Daniel19
Daniel19

I actually like this idea. Then schools like Boise State would have to buck up and join a real conference, instead of just running their mouths...

Ciscos
Ciscos

@Todd Gee ~ I was getting ready to write the same thing... they aren't fooling anyone with this gibberish.

Ciscos
Ciscos

@modsuperstar Yup. Not only do they have to compete with smaller schools for players, they don't want to share the revenue either.  They want to feel special again.

hmich176
hmich176

Why would they break away? They would create the same thing, just a different name.

Boscatar
Boscatar

@gwhjelm Because we're all excited that Georgia Southern and Old Dominion are joining Texas State and Texas-San Antonio in the "major" level of college football? It's time to set a minimum threshold and enforce it. If you can't average at least 30,000 fans at your home games, you don't qualify for "major" college football - and yes, I'm very well aware that Duke probably doesn't make the cut (along with probably every team from the MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA and some AAC and MWC schools).

hmich176
hmich176

Also if these schools leave to create a new oversight organization these schools will create the same damn organization, just under a different name.

hmich176
hmich176

The number of scholarships weren't damaged when the NCAA created Division II. They created D2 out of D1, because the small schools couldn't compete. The same thing is happening again. A new D1, remaining D1 becomes D2, D2 becomes D3, and D3 becomes D4. And if there is a new D1, we'll get the smaller Men's Basketball Tournament some people desire.

Boscatar
Boscatar

@Daniel19 Boise State would "join a real conference" in a heart beat. Actually, I hope they do form a 4th top-level of college football, with the Big 5 conferences - and then let whoever else is willing to step it up join (whether as independents or another conference). I honestly think you would only see Notre Dame, BYU, Boise St., and may be a handful of others step up with the Big 5. I'm thinking a few others from the AAC and MWC - UCF, USF, Cincinnati, UConn, San Diego St., UNLV?

muser
muser

@Daniel19 Are you really that stupid? Do you think you just invite yourself to join a conference. You're a future Darwin award honoree...

Cristina2
Cristina2

@Boscatar @Daniel19 Funny that they would play top opponents in a heartbeat, but the moment Alabama offered to play them...in Boise Stata's stadium, Boise State went silent about that. And that offer was made publicly. Look it up. And if they were so hell bent on joining the big boys, why is it that when the Big 12, the Big Ten and the Pac 10 were  bringing in new teams.....Boise State only talked to the Big East.