Posted April 18, 2013

Steve Williams: Tiger Woods should have been disqualified from Masters

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Steve Williams has now caddied for Tiger Woods and Adam Scott to Masters wins. (Getty Images)

Adam Scott’s playoff win at Augusta National is caddie Steve Williams’ 14th major and third Masters title. (Getty Images)

Steve Williams, fresh off helping Adam Scott win the Masters, gave an interview to New Zealand’s 3news upon the caddie’s return to New Zealand that included some frank discussion of Tiger Woods’ controversial second-round drop.

After recalling Scott’s final round and playoff win, Williams is asked his thoughts on Woods’ dalliance with the rules on the 15th hole (about 12 minutes into the video). A diplomatic Williams first points out he didn’t have all the facts in front of him, and gives several reasons why he could understand how Woods — his former employer — would take an incorrect drop, and believes he did not intentionally circumvent the rules. Despite those qualifiers, Williams believes the rules should have been upheld and Woods should have been disqualified.


125 comments
seahank
seahank

Until every shot from every player is televised like 90% of Tigers shots are, no one should be able to call in to report a violation even if he works for the PGA rules committee. You can bet the guys who don't get televised are cutting corners.

Richard W
Richard W

This guy is a caddie and we care what he thinks? If it wasn't for Tiger, this guy would be shagging golf balls somewhere in Australia.

juliemc44
juliemc44

God help Adam Scott if he ever fires this guy! he simply can't let go of the past- He needs to move on already and focus on his new boss.  He's acting like a jilted lover instead of a fired bag ape!

Ounce of Logic
Ounce of Logic

Steve "Sour Grapes" Williams says: "I hate Tiger Woods"

pduffy211
pduffy211

So the folks that ran the game said it was okay, then some TV watching dude says it wasn't okay, so the folks that were in charge changed their minds and penalized him and now we have his X buddy saying they should have kicked him out.   Tell me again why anyone would want to play, watch or care about this organizations role in golf again.  Maybe they can hire some of the great grandchildren of the keystone cops to come out and manage the next game.

scp1957
scp1957

I get that it's a new day and all of that, so I'm down with Stevie's sex change, really I am. Still and yet, someone should've told him that this stereotypically affected stuff is strictly optional. There's no need to camp it up, Stevie.

nibertjames
nibertjames

That's weird. Williams is usually such a Tiger supporter. 

PhillipDeKemper
PhillipDeKemper

Williams makes me sick. He rode Tiger to fame and fortune and now knocks him every chance he gets. No matter whose bag he is on for rest of his career, he won't come close to the number of tournaments or majors with Tiger. He needs to keep his loud and obnoxious mouth shut. At the end of the day, it was ruled on by the officials. They could have DQed him but did not. If the officials had not ruled, and he discovered the mistake he should have withdrawn.

JTBailey49
JTBailey49

I think Williams is right. Tiger went around the rules and should have been disqualified.

ZQ
ZQ

Williams is a spoiled brat. Caddies should help the pro they work for and then go home and keep their mouth shut. This guy is an ungrateful bastid after making Millions carrying Mr. Tiger Woods bag.

You're not the show the golfer is. enjoy the flag pin. Hang it on your wall and zip it.

Johnedwardsalter
Johnedwardsalter

I just posted a comment on all of this comments which I just read about Tiger. Get a life and learn to play Golf like Tiger  and become a ruling offical then make your comments. All of you that have something bad to say about Tiger need to grow up and get a life.

southaustin
southaustin

Why don't all the Tiger haters just boycott golf in protest ? I'm sure the  PGA will be really sad at the thought of losing  $2.00 in revenue. For every Tiger hater there are 1000s of Tiger fans that only watch  golf when Tiger is playing resulting in millions of $ in additional TV revenue.  Tiger haters are basically irrelevant - golf doesn't give a rat's blank  what they  think which is exactky the amount of attention they deserve.

rma101560
rma101560

Steve Williams need to shut up and get on with caddying.  He knew Tiger was a jerk but it didn't keep him from taking money from Tiger.  The only reason anybody know who he is is because of Tiger.  Grow up.

Amazzed
Amazzed

Tiger Woods has put golf back on the map, he has a ton of money and world wide fame and appeal.  He will never be treated like a common Steve Williams.  Keep swinging Steve-0 and maybe someday Steve Williams will be somebody too. Unfortunately, Steve-0 that day is not today ):

bootspur
bootspur

Who is Steve Williams? Oh yes, I think I recall him, he replaced Tiger Woods' previous old, fat, worn, acerbic caddie, Chubby, or Grumpy I don't recall . That's right, and after making the blowhard Steve Williams a rich man he has chosen to join the large crowd of hypocrites who believe themselves to be above Tiger Woods. 

WilliamDavidShellman
WilliamDavidShellman

Tiger cheated and got away with it.  The rule is well known by all real golfers.  All who disagree or make excuses have no credibility.  Golf requires players to police themselves to abide by the rules or penalize themselves.  He will be forever known as a cheater. 

GeoffMangum
GeoffMangum

Tiger violated the drop rule, s he gets the 2-stroke penalty. He also signed for an incorrect score, so that score doesn't "qualify" against other competitors. In any golf competition without a referee (as are almost ALL amateur competitions), Tiger would be honor-bound after learning his third-round score was incorrect to withdraw from the competition. The fact that there was a Rules official who miss-called the penalty (thinking the Rules were NOT violated) but didn't say anything to Tiger before he signed for an incorrect score puts Tiger in the same situation as any other player who did the same but without a referee telling the player he did NOT violate the Rules.So the bottom line is WHAT REASON the Masters used to justify waiving the DQ for Tiger. The answer at best is that Tiger's "Nanny" failed to clean up after him. That is, the fault falls on the Rules official for not helping Tiger avoid the DQ. That, in fact, is a stupid and ill-advised policy basis for the waiver. Golfers don't have "nannies" to take the fall for them. Play by the Rules of Golf, or not, but playing in violation of the Rules is not "okay" so long as there is a "nanny" to make sure you either play by the Rules or your violations don't count the same as usual since the "nanny" SHOULDA COULDA  helped you out.Golf is not like other sports where a referee watches all players on the court or field at the same time, and is available to see eery violation. In those cases, if the referee misses a call, the game moves on one "play" at a time or one "possession" or "service" at a time. In golf, the GOLFER has to call his own violations, since no referee watches every single stroke. And even if the golfer happens to have a "nanny" on the scene, and the "nanny" misses the violation, the golfer needs to "man up" and get treated the same as the player without a "nanny" to blame.

 

GeoffreyHolland
GeoffreyHolland

Steve Williams should just shut the heck up. He's an eediot.

Robert102
Robert102

Steve Williams, do you know what they call a person that can't golf? A jealous caddie. You should be banned from the PGA for defaming one of the greatest golfers to play the game. If you were any good as a caddie, you wouldn't have been fired by Tiger.

JayLandon
JayLandon

I don't understand all the arguing and controversy.  They followed the rules.  Specifically, I think it's rule 33-7, but don't quote me, that allows discretion when a DQ-able violation happens through no fault of the player.  Had the scorecard that Tiger signed been inaccurate AT THE TIME he signed it... for example, had they already administered the 2 strokes but it had inadvertently been not changed on Tiger's card, Tiger would have been DQ, no questions asked.  There was NO WAY for Tiger to have signed a correct card, since the tournament had already looked at the incident and determined it was no violation, therefore tournament exercised it's discretion, AS IT SHOULD HAVE, to penalize but not DQ Tiger.

 

By the way, a lot of people (myself included) have called Tiger 'Tigger', in no way a veiled reference to his skin and the 'n' word, but a blatant reference to a Winnie the Pooh character.  Grow up.

Vinny Cordoba
Vinny Cordoba

or a world-class trailer park skank who happens to ski.

jhawk0718
jhawk0718

 @JTBailey49

 JTB, that is your opinion and you are welcome to it but you don't have all the facts or you would agree with the ruling not only of the rules committee at Augusta National, but the governing bodies of golf. Tiger wasn't the one who screwed the pooch.  He simply abided by what the ruling was.  Move on!

scp1957
scp1957

 @ZQ Much more of this and the other caddies may consider mugging this guy and doing some serious damage. If I'm a player, I'm beginning to look out of the corners of my eyes at "my" own guy about now.

scp1957
scp1957

 @rma101560 The funniest part of all of this is the fact that Stevie himself is a major tool and always has been, as witness both the way he carried on when he had Tiger's bag and the way he's behaving now.

scp1957
scp1957

 @bootspur I'm uncertain, but I believe that Tiger's first caddie's name was Wilford Brimley.

scp1957
scp1957

 @WilliamDavidShellman The rule was changed two YEARS ago, moron. You remind me of an old buddy of mine who has never ceased running his yap about the time that I "cheated" by lifting and placing my ball in the fairway. Never mind that the Rules of Golf clearly states that local rules in such matters take precedence and that such rule was clearly posted the day that we played. Some folks just can't bend far enough to get the iron rod out of their backsides, I suppose.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @WilliamDavidShellman Why don't  you call the folks at Augusta & share your info with them.   They might want to know that they missed what was apparently an obvious breaking of the rules, although with all of the cameras and officials one would think that this cheating that you speak of would have been noticed.

Anarchy Reigns
Anarchy Reigns

 @GeoffMangum

 the rule changed last year, the 2 shot penalty was valid based on sigining an incorrect scorecard since Tiger wasn't informed of the incorrect drop until after he signed the scorecard...before you think I am defending Tiger I am not; I'm not a big fan of him as a person but respect his ability as a golfer....but the rules changed so that signing an incorrect scorecard doesn't have as much of a penalty as it used (and this is a good thing, since the old rule was archaic)

 

 

Johnedwardsalter
Johnedwardsalter

After reading all of this B.S. on who is right and who is wrong on the Tiger Woods issue should learn to play golf as good as Tiger does has done for a very long time until he pulled the stupid acts of  hanging out in Vegas and I'm sure other places as well and cheating on his wife did only ruined his game for awhile and dang sure his marriage. Start playing  Golf like Tiger Woods then make all of this stupid comments that I have read from so many people and become an Official AND FORGET ABOUT YOUR SOUNDING BOARD. WHO REALLY CARES WHAT ANY OF YOU THINK. TAKE TIGER TO COURT YOURSELF.(LOL)

csjinvest
csjinvest

 @Robert102 Actually, Steve Williams is a scratch golfer.......how about you? While Tiger may be one of the greatest golfers.....he has failed where it counts.....as a man.

HawaiiRules
HawaiiRules

 @JayLandon You obviously don't know the rules.  Williams is correct. 

the rule allowing a DQ to be avoided only applies where there is a FACT not known at the time the card is signed.  It specifically does not apply hwere there is a plea of ignorance of the rules (i.e., him saying he did not know he was dropping illegally).  The rule to avoid a DQ was put into place for situations in which for example in a high def. replay a grounding or movement or a touch is shown, which a player couldn't have reasonably known about--as players can't be expected to be checking replays while they're playing.  He knew factually what he had done at the time he signed his card, and signed an incorrect score.  DQ is the only proper reading of the rules.

mbroncofan
mbroncofan

 @JayLandon He ADMITTED he backed up two yards so he could hit the exact same shot!  He even commented about how well it worked out.  He cheated.  He knows he cheated.  And he should have been DQ'd.

Mr. J
Mr. J

 @Vinny Cordoba Sounds like another jealous hillbilly ...Get a life that Tiger's girl is much hotter than your fat trailer girl.....Stop being jealous...I am sure she was your all American hero till you found out Tiger was dating her...Go buy some Extenze if you have a problem!!

JayLandon
JayLandon

 @Vinny Cordoba

 Or a low-class trailer park skank who happens to be the mom of Vinny Cordoba...

 

See what I did there?

scp1957
scp1957

 @csjinvest  @Robert102 Perhaps, but, then, no more so than have literally tens, if not hundreds, of millions of other men (and women.) Are you in any wise so harsh in your judgment of THEM as you are in your judgment of HIM? If not, then have you the GUTS to answer a second question--this one--as well as a third, to wit: Are you just one more bitter white man who is threatened beyond all reason at the prospect of adjusting to a world in which other, darker men may feel free to be "uppity"? It's no more attractive than is the black man who assigns his every failure in life to "Whitey and the Man", really it's not. 

Vinny Cordoba
Vinny Cordoba

 @Mr. J , let's not talk about your man crush on Eldrick right now. Instead, let's talk about that awesome headband you're wearing. Where'd you get that, bro? I gotta get me one of those.

Vinny Cordoba
Vinny Cordoba

 @Cydjim , ohhhhh. That wasn't nice. You hurt my feelings. And here I am, complimenting Eldrick for being such a hopeless romantic.

scp1957
scp1957

 @Mr. J  @Vinny Cordoba Who does your son suck? I must admit that I'm surprised at your openness about it. Many fathers, particularly black ones, aren't nearly so copacetic.

Mr. J
Mr. J

 @Vinny Cordoba  @Mr. J Your moms bought it for me..Its actually a headband visor.. On the front its says "My Son Sucks!!" I should send you one!

scp1957
scp1957

 @JayLandon  @Vinny Cordoba News flash, so was Arnie. So were most of the pros. Hell, that was probably why Palmer made fun of Nicklaus, because Jack wasn't an unfaithful jerk-off.

Vinny Cordoba
Vinny Cordoba

 @GeoffreyHolland  @Cydjim , how do I break this to you? The reason I call him "Eldrick" instead of "Tiger" is exactly because I don't respect him. Got it? Also, what's an eediot?

GeoffreyHolland
GeoffreyHolland

 @Vinny Cordoba  @Cydjim  His name it Tiger. He legally changed it many many many years ago. Calling him Eldrick is a sign of disrespect. Grow up and stop being an eediot.

Cydjim
Cydjim

 @Vinny Cordoba It was a cheapshot at Vonn who worked hard to be a great skier and a decent Olympian . Your feelings are fairly irrelevant, If he was a baseball player that probably would have Kevin Costner play him