Posted January 08, 2013

RGIII has partially torn ACL, MCL, report says

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Robert Griffin has a partially torn ACL and MCL, according to a report. (Al Bello/Getty Images)

Robert Griffin has a partially torn ACL and MCL, according to a report. (Al Bello/Getty Images)

Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III has a partially torn ACL and MCL in his right knee, an MRI taken Monday revealed, according to a report in The Washington Post. The report cites “several people with knowledge of the test results.”

Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan — who has drawn criticism for his decision to leave Griffin in Sunday’s 24-14 wildcard loss to the Seattle Seahawks — said on Monday that the results of the MRI prompted the Redskins to send Griffin to Dr. James Andrews for further examination, where he might have to undergo exploratory surgery.

The Washington Post reported that the visit will determine whether the injuries are old or new, since Griffin tore an ACL in the same knee while playing for Baylor in 2009.

“That’s what we’re trying to find out,” a person familiar with the tests told the Post, referring to the newness of the injuries.

Shanahan admitted Monday that the MRI had left the team worried about Griffin’s status for next season. A torn ACL typically requires a rehabilitation period of nine to 12 months.

Griffin was hurt in the first quarter of the Redskins’ loss on Sunday, but he stayed in the game. But in the fourth quarter, he twisted the knee in gruesome fashion while trying to recover a bad snap.


51 comments
JackWilliams
JackWilliams

RG3 will still claim HE IS THE MAN! even if he ends up in a walker. I think he has too many visions of being the heroic savior instead of just being a team player. Cousins gave the 'Skins the best chance to win on Sunday but for RG3's imagination of fighting on the front lines of a bloody battle.

Cu
Cu

Easy come..easy go!

MelSims
MelSims

I have a couple of stories to post here in this message. Believe this or not I don't care. My source was my patient and he had no reason to lie to me. So, I am in the military and was stationed at Fort Leavenworth Kansas. I was a physical therapy specialist and one of my jobs was to go over exercises with our new or existing patient's. I am a HUGE Broncos fan. Anyways this one day my OIC (the physical therapist) tells me he needs me to over some exercises with a patient. It needs to be me and he told me the first thing I should tell the patient is that I am a huge die hard Broncos fan. The patient is obviously in the military. So, I come up to him and tell him that I was told to say I am a huge Broncos fan. He extends his hand and tell me hi, I am Mark Elam and Jason Elam the kicker for the Broncos is my brother. I was like Wow. So, this is really cool. Jason's brother. So, we get to talking and one thing leads to another and he tells me how hard it is in the NFL for players that get "hurt or injured". He mentions to me if I remembered the game where Jason Elam got hurt will kicking a field goal against the Raiders. I told him yes. Mark then proceeds to tell me what nobody knew except those close to Jason knew. As Jason was kicking the ball a player jumped at Jason and planted Jason backwards to the ground. Mark said as soon as Jason was hit he hurt extremely bad and could not move his legs. So, during the TV timeout (convenient), the special teams coach runs to the field and yells and cusses at Jason and tells him to get up and get off the field. We had to waste a timeout on you. Jason couldn't move. Eventually, they get him on a cart and cart him off the field. Nobody believed that Jason was hurt except Jason and his family. The next day, JASON had to go to a hospital and pay for his own MRI and it showed he had damaged his spine and would need surgery. Jason shows this information to the Coaches and not one of them apologizes to him for how they spoke and acted to him.

Next story, he said that of course is bad, but do you remember John Mobley the linebacker for the Broncos? I said yes, and it is too bad he got hurt. He reminded me that game was at Kansas City and John Mobley hurt his knee. When he went down He (John Mobley) felt it pop and the pain was like nothing he had ever felt. John told the coaches, "this wasn't normal pain I think something is seriously wrong with my knee." The coaches to include Mike Shanahan told him he better get his butt ( they used something else) back out on that football field. John told them no. I will not go back out there. John was so mad he left the field and the stadium. All this while the game is still going on mind you. He proceeds to go to a hospital and pay for his own MRI. He tore his ACL. He gives the results to the coaches and none of them apologized to him either. I always remembered that football game and thought it was weird when they said during the game that John Mobley had left. When Mark told me this I now know why. I am not trying to point out Mike Shanahan. I am trying to point out that the NFL only really cares about the head injuries because of the court cases. Not about anything else. It was clear to any normal person that could see, that RG III was injured and was not safe to remain out there. Also, RG III was not giving the Redskins at that time 2nd quarter on any real reason to win that game. So, why leave him out there??? That is football. This did not begin with Mike Shanahan. There are many more stories out there. I am sure of that. Players are paid lots of money to play. Fans pay money to see those players play. Not see the back-ups. I want to see the NFL step in and show they care about all injuries. Not just the head ones. I hope you all found this info insightful. The truth hurts sometimes. MIke is at his old ways again. 

Hector_25
Hector_25

During 2012 regular season games when RG3 ran with the ball he put himself at risk for serious injury.  Unlike Andrew Luck, who knows when to slide to safely end a run, RG3 was always trying to make an extra yard or two, even when it meant that he would be tackled hard.  I thought to myself "if RG3 doesn't run more conservatively and slide to avoid being tackled then it will only be a short time before he has a major injury."  And sadly my premonition was right.  I was also wondering, why doesn't Shanahan or the QB coach step up and insist that RG3 stop taking hits while running. Apparently that is not Shanahan's style.  And now the future-of-the-franchise has a serious injury.  Bad thinking Mr. Shanahan.   

YuckDaFankees
YuckDaFankees

Mike Shanahan has always been famous for running his stars into ground for a few glorious seasons and throwing them away like a light bulb (see long line of running backs).  He is also famous for dirty coaching to hurt opposing players but that is another conversation.

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Is Rex Grossman still available?

corkpuller
corkpuller

Really...shocking. I thought all knees bend that way.  

Apeman
Apeman

RG3, Hoping you have a full recovery..

j7apple
j7apple

Kirk Cousins pick is looking better and better...

Ferenczy68
Ferenczy68

So he aggravates an existing injury while trying to recover a botched snap and you think he should have just been handing the ball off or throwing short passes only? Exactly how is he going to do that if the most basic part of the game (the exchange from center) doesn't work on a particular play? Also, basic football training says you do what with the ball loose on the ground? That's right, you dive on it and try to cover it, not bend at the waist. Everything about this whole situation stinks. Shanny should have known better but then so should RG3 & everyone else in that organization, including his teammates. Good luck RG3 on your long journey back. I think you've got enough character to do this, fans everywhere are rooting for you!

Ouch!
Ouch!

I have a bad feeling that Griff-mas is over for DC and this is a cover up. RGIII must have a catastrophic injury. There are just too many open questions.

 

Why send him to Florida when the doctor (Andrews) who will see him in Florida was right there on the sidelines on Sunday?

Is it because Andrews and the team trust his staff in Florida to keep their mouths shut to the media?

 

Why do they need  to do MRIs in Florida? Do MRI machines Florida work better than the ones in Maryland, DC and VA ?

Is it because Andrews and the team trust his staff in Florida to keep their mouths shut to the media? Is it an excuse to get RGIII to Florida and away from the scrutiny of local media?

 

Why are they confused about what damage is new and what damage is from prior injuries? They have previous MRIs from the earlier sprain that they can use as a baseline.

Is this just another excuse to get him to Florida where they can better limit the information that is leaked to the media?

FredFlintsone
FredFlintsone

Players always want to play  Its the head coaches responsibility to protect its  franchise player not the other way around.

WilliamSmith1
WilliamSmith1

rg is a head case when it comes to playing time

FredFlintsone
FredFlintsone

With an excellent back up like Cousins on hand  leave it to "mastermind" to risk the  career of his franchise QB

NeoSmith
NeoSmith

FIRST of all, don't rush RG3 back!  Shanahan should have rested him a lot more during the playoff run.  But once in the playoffs, he should have absolutely benched RG3 after seeing him hobbling around and not able to plant his foot.  It was pretty good foresight to draft Cousins, because this year's QB crop is terrible.  Let Cousins start and allow RG3 to rest until he is fully recovered.

 

SECONDLY, WTH was Shanahan calling option reads and running plays for RG3?!  Comfortably ahead, 14-0, hand the ball off to your stud RB if you are going to keep RG3 in the game.  Have RG3 throw short passing plays if you must.  Just unbelievable that Shanahan continued to expose RG3 to injury.

Paul23
Paul23

One question...."Was it worth it?"

JohnSidey
JohnSidey

I hope RG3 can recover and he will be ready to go by the end of the 2013 season or the start of 2014.   I am not a Redskins fan but if I was I would be very upset that they kept this kid in the game after the 14 - 0 tuchdown throw when he hobbled off the field.  Shanahan can say all the wants about RG3 saying he is good to go but the whole football world knows better..I guess if you believe the lies you tell yourself long enough they become the truth.  They were not going to win a super bowl this year anyway with that defense so why risk your future and more importantly a good young man's career.

EarlMartyPrice
EarlMartyPrice

Snyder basically gave the Rams a bunch of draft choices for this wonderful young AB. He now needs to fire Shanahan, who put his ego ahead of his QB and the team.

sdefrancis
sdefrancis

Shanahan has to go! I wonder if he would have left "Kyle" in the game hobbling around like that potentially risking his career. He mortgaged RG3's future on an insignificant playoff game. 

goingaways
goingaways

Shanahan should be fired immediately,, he did the damn thing with terrel davis and ruined his career,, the guy is a player killer,, he has no regard for the safety of his players or team, only to win at any cost,, a total creep

TakeMyAdvice
TakeMyAdvice

Thanks, Coach Shanahan, and RG3... Should of put Cousins in from the start! Since, when do you leave it up to the injured player whether he feels ok to play so soon... Freaking ball hog, you won't last in the NFL if you keep running with the football -just ask Eagles quarterback Micheal Vick! Fire the Coach NOW and get another Quarterback for 2013,leave Cousins in as starter.

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Nine to 12 months?? Yikes. Good thing Kirk Cousins is around.

JackWilliams
JackWilliams

 @j7apple

 I thought the Cousins pick looked incredible fortuitous last Sunday, and I was sure he would start the 2nd half. I imagined Cousins and RG3 alternating snaps unpredictably...randomy bringing RG3 off the bench in change of pace wildcat situations. The 'Skins had a one point lead, but hopefully could control the ball with Morris and keep it out of Seattles hands. None of that came to pass, and Shanahan left an obviously hobbled RG3 in the game. No ball control, and the defense got worn out.

JackWilliams
JackWilliams

 @Ouch!

 Maybe it's because HGH is widely available in FL for all those snow cones down there.

WillWillis1
WillWillis1

 @Ouch! Dr. Andrews has his own established practice in Florida. That's where he lives/works. Being a team doctor of the Redskins isn't his full-time job, and my understanding is that he was only brought in as a consultant after the initial injury because he's widely considered the foremost expert on knee injuries. 

As far as why teams don't have MRI machines in the stadium for team doctors to use, my guess is that they're cost prohibitive given that a player needing an MRI isn't likely coming back into a game anyway. It isn't a time sensitive that needs to be done in the stadium on game day, so there's little justification to have that extremely expensive piece of medical equipment sitting around on hand.

James C
James C

It is very possible, looking at the picture of his knee when he was injured that it is a very serious knee injury. It is also possible that he might not have an injury as bad as people think. Is it serious no matter what? Yes.

 

Now as to why they do another MRI. It is very possible that due to swelling in the knee, the first MRI was not able to determine the extent of the damage. There is a reason people often don't have surgery immediately after an MRI injury. The true damage can't be determined until the swelling goes down. MRI's are not great at looking through swelling.

 

Also, why send him to Dr. James Andrews? He is the best at what he does. He also will keep quiet to the media because he legally has to, unless the patient allows him to release information about a treatment. No matter how famous an athlete is, hey are still covered by privacy laws in the United States, and a Dr's staff can't release medical information unless the patient agrees to them releasing the information.

 

I will agree that not everyone recovers from ACL surgery, but there have also been cases of people having successful sports careers with multiple ACL surgerys and even no real ACL in a knee. John Elway tore his ACL in either HS or college and it was never repaired. He had a pretty solid NFL career.

rchaa27aa
rchaa27aa

Ouch, where is your tin foil hat. Like hundres of ACL injuries, he will be fine.

WilliamSmith1
WilliamSmith1

 @sjq294

 it's rg ,,,he was not given a lot of common sence,,,we have to face it,,,the kid is mixed up in the head.....but he can play football

Cool
Cool

 @NeoSmith obvioulsy then comfortable 14 point lead wasn't so comfortable.  I don't know of many games where after a 14 point lead the coach decides to go soft.

 

rchaa27aa
rchaa27aa

"playoff run"??????...for cripes sake, it was their first game.

j7apple
j7apple

 @Paul23 and people questioned should RG3 be picked over Luck for # 1  ...This will be one of a long  list of injuries for RG3 in his career. ..Like Vick...when healthy, and exciting player....WHEN............ ...

StevenBarber
StevenBarber

 @TakeMyAdvice Get another QB? Are you a moron? RG3 is becoming one of the best players in the NFL. You are either racist or you don't understand the game of football, probably both actually.

Dieselg
Dieselg

 @James C

 There's quite a difference in Elway's case as it was his left knee, not the one he planted in order to make a throw. RG3 was making terrible throws in that game because he couldn't plant his right foot as  he normally did.

Dieselg
Dieselg

 @rchaa27aa

 Not everyone heals from torn ACL's even with the best of surgeons there is no guarantee. And this is RG3's second surgery, those are known to be difficult and the failure rate is higher.

Dieselg
Dieselg

 @rchaa27aa

 Obviously he is referring to the fact that they won seven straight going into the playoffs, hence the use of  the expression "playoff run".

rchaa27aa
rchaa27aa

Steve, he's not a racist but is a total moron.

Blake13
Blake13

 @StevenBarber  @TakeMyAdvice 

 

Steven Barber you are RACIST. Do you this RG3 will be ready to from a TORN MCL AND ACL by the time next season starts? No. RG3 is a dynamic player and seems like a decent guy, but he is not Wolverine. Here is to hoping he has a AP2K type recovery. 

 

You are in fact a moron. 

 

radeygabriel
radeygabriel

stevenbarber -Yes, get another QB for 2013...... you know to back up Cousins.....cuz like the whole gist of the article is that , like, rg3 will be, like, rehabing for, like, 12 months. 

John4
John4

 @SteveAllen  Who is AP?  I know who AD is, but AP?  Never heard of him.

AD is a running back for the Vikings.  Number 28.  University of Oklahoma RB.  Had a torn ACL (vs. the Redskins in Dec 2012)  and rehabbed in an epic manner.  2097 rushing yards in 2012 (second all time).  AD stands for All Day.  How long he will outwork you, outhustle you, out rehab you, etc.  He goes by AD.  He does NOT go by AP.  Time to learn his nickname.  

WillWillis1
WillWillis1

 @FrankWilloughby You're right. I think the sentiment of my post is still valid, but I should've verified my facts before making that statement. 

Dieselg
Dieselg

 @James C   It wasn't an idea, I was only explaining what neoSmith meant.  The Skins had lots of problems for sure. But lots of teams don't clinch playoff spots until the end. The Giants didn't clinch the eastern division in 2011 until the last game, but still made it to and won the Super Bowl. Skins could have lost their last game this year and still made the playoffs had other teams in the running lost also.

James C
James C

Great idea, except for the fact they started so poorly that they didn't even clinch a playoff spot until the final game of the season. They had no chance to rest players because they were not in position to make the playoffs most of the season. Had they lost one of those 7 games they would be exactly where the NYG are right now, watching the post-season.

ToneZak
ToneZak

 @Blake13  @StevenBarber  @TakeMyAdvice An AP recovery?  Why do people think that this is the norm now?  It happened once EVER.  I doubt this is something we can rely on now everytime someone tears their acl.

EH
EH

 @Blake13  @StevenBarber  @TakeMyAdvice

 Nobody is a racist here. ACLs and MCLs are pink regardless of whatever skin color covers them. Dumbass.  They can be repared, rebuilt but, they do need to HEAL.  Not racist just realistic.  No, he will not be back unless and until Wash makes playoffs next season. That is if he has surgery NOW. Any idiot with half an eye could see this guy was hurt.......

KantSk8
KantSk8

 @Loki  @John4  @SteveAllen John is 100% correct.  Adrian Peterson has had the nickname "AD" for many years.  It's only folks like yourself who use his initials.  It's not necessarily wrong, it's just not his nickname.

Loki
Loki

 @John4  @SteveAllenAP is Adrian Peterson, the RB for the Vikings....you'll notice that his FIRST name starts with an 'A' and and last name starts with a 'P', giving him the initials AP....it's common knowledge that you don't get to pick your own nickname...Peterson is AP, regardless of what trivial thoughts bounce around in your empty little head