Posted December 01, 2012

Report: Pac-12 not expanding yet, if it does Boise State, San Diego State might get look

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The Pac-12 isn't ready to expand, but Boise State might be on their radar if they do. (Otto Kitsinger III/Getty Images)

The Pac-12 isn’t ready to expand, but Boise State might be on their radar if they do. (Otto Kitsinger III/Getty Images)

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said that his conference is not looking to expand yet, but if they do Boise State and San Diego State might get a look.

“In my short three years-plus as commissioner, I’ve learned to never say never,” Scott said.

Scott says his conference feels good about the conference being set at 12 teams and said there is no reason to go beyond that number.

“When we expanded in the past we looked at them because they are prominent schools in the West, with very strong athletics programs, in markets we are not in,” Scott said when asked if those two schools would get a look, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. “There’s a lot of criteria that we looked at last time, that I’m sure we’d look at again. If we were to look at expanding again, I’m sure both those schools would be on the list. But, we don’t have any plans.”

Boise State and San Diego State, both currently compete in the Mountain West Conference, will play in the Big East conference next year.


26 comments
MarkJones
MarkJones

BYU and Colorado State would increase Colorado and Utah market and bring symmetry back to the conference.  (BYU/Utah, CU/CSU)

Aaron14
Aaron14

I can understand why PAC 12 fans wouldn't want to add SDSU to the conference because the basketball team beats the crap out of PAC 12 schools enough as it is.

Scott28
Scott28

Nope. Not Boise State or San Diego State. Those are Big East-caliber schools.

The Pac-12 would be raiding the Big 12 (Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and ?), or it would stay the same.

imbonity
imbonity

Stupid article.  Neither school would get an invite.  Boise State is not in a desirable TV market, San Diego State is in a market already dominated by the Pac 12, and none of the California schools would want another recruiting rival in San Diego.  Neither school has the academics to get into the Pac 12 anyway.  This is as likely as El Camino Community College getting an invite ...

ErikAgle
ErikAgle

Wow, they've obviously got something against BYU.  You could argue taking Utah and Colorado over them, but Boise State and SDSU?

schmolik1
schmolik1

If the Pac-12 expands, it's going to Texas.

ChristopherBare
ChristopherBare

Larry Scott is just f&*ing with Mike Aresco.  He's probably laughing over single malt scotch and a Cuban about now.

MarcCutright
MarcCutright

Brighat, GregM, and drkbear: Are you laboring under the delusion that this is all about academics? That's just cute as a button.

brighat
brighat

Boise State and San Diego State are both great athletic schools but they are nothing more than glorified community colleges that anybody could attend.

GregM
GregM

This is BS.  Both those schools are embarrassing academically.  Short answer is NO.

drkbear
drkbear

Scott doesn't have to say never.  The university presidents will.  Boise State is not academically suitable in any way.  San Diego State is a little better, but they won't pass muster either.  The Pac 12 are all top research universities and these two schools aren't.

RobLong
RobLong

 @Scott28 Nobody from the Big 12 left that wants to be there.. OU, UT and Ok Stat was the best chance, but its probably good they didnt take them. Those Pac 12 trophies would keep coming back here to the midwest.. As a Sooner fan, i have no desire to play in that league. Those teams dont really interest me, nor does the political leanings of those in that geography. YOur welcome for Colorado, they were a doormat here and a doormat there now. You'll probably go get Fresno State.

preining2
preining2

 @Scott28 Agreed it will stay at 12.  There are far more schools out east to pick from so it is easier for the 3 eastern big conferences to get to 14 or 16.  But this is all about $$$ so the PAC and Big 12 will not expand just to expand.  They will only add school that can bring in more than the average pay out.  For the PAC there are no schools not in the Big 12 and for the Big 12 there are no schools that are not in the ACC.

Aaron14
Aaron14

 @imbonity What are you talking about? People in San Diego are much more a fan of SDSU then they are of any Pac-12 school unless they are a transplant. SDSU is just surrounded by Pac-12 schools which is why they are moving up to the Big East. Say what you want about the Big East but it will be a MUCH better financial deal for SDSU than it would be to stay in the Mountain West and it will undoubtedly help with recruiting getting on more televisions than they are now.

drkbear
drkbear

 @ErikAgle The PAC 12 presidents will never approve a religiously affiliated university either.  Religion and academic freedom are antithetical.

RobLong
RobLong

 @schmolik1 If TX wanted to be there, they had the chance, they passed.

preining2
preining2

 @MarcCutright it's about money and academics (like with the Big 10) These schools bring neither academics or large TV markets.  Neither of these schools will ever get in especially with how easy it is for just a couple schools to block a schools addition.  This is the same reason BYU will never get in.

brighat
brighat

 @MarcCutright I am aware that San Diego State and Boise State are associate members of the PAC-12 in other sports. I am also aware that that Boise State isn't a research university. These schools are being considered as future additions in order to keep the Big 12 from snapping them up as there's no way a 10 team league will do when other conferences are moving towards 14 and soon 16 teams. I just didn't want to cause trouble with any PAC-12 fans.

JGerard
JGerard

 @drkbearThe timing of this announcement leads one to wonder if the Petersen to Arkansas rumors actually have some real significance since its been widely reported that the Coach of Boise St is at odds with the President about Boise's anticipated move to the Big East.

Could it be that the President called in a favor to the PAC-12 Commish to enhance his leverage in a counter-offer to keep Petersen at Boise St ???

preining2
preining2

 @Aaron14  @imbonity It will not be MUCH better.  Not when you look at the 20+ million the Big East no longer gets now that they are one of the other 5.  Then there is the Big Easts loss of 8 school (and TV markets) in less than 2 years. (Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, West Virginia, Notre Dame, L'ville, Loyola, TCU) all of which have been replaced by lesser teams in much smaller markets.  Once the new TV is finalized SDSU and Boise St will see how little they will get compared to what they were pitched.  Especially with no money form the B-Ball side of the TV deal.  All while having to three 3 time zones for their road games and having the rest of their sports in another conference.

MarcCutright
MarcCutright

 @preining2  @MarcCutrightIf it was about academics in the Big 10, Missouri would have gotten in. They were begging before the SEC took them. Mizzou is an AAU institutiion.  So let's just admit that the three top prioriities are bucks, moola, and ca-ching.

 

 

RobLong
RobLong

 @brighat  @MarcCutright Big 12 doesnt want BSU thats already been discussed. SDSU is nobody and never will be.. Pac 12 can have them.

Aaron14
Aaron14

 @preining2  @imbonity I'm sure the money will be fine. Remember, the contract is a package deal with the two sports and the advertising dollars are going through the roof right now. That's where all the money is coming from, advertising dollars not increased fan interest.

Aaron14
Aaron14

 @RobLong  @brighat  @MarcCutright Well, the Big 12 is going to need somebody when Texas heads to the Big 10. That looks to be the next major seismic shift. Once Texas leaves, and maybe even before, Okla and probably Okla St. will be going to the SEC. Larry Scott is again showing tremendous vision because those two plus BYU are probably the 3 best athletic programs west of Texas not in the Pac 12 and if they go to the Big 12 they probably wouldn't leave to make a lateral move to the Pac 12. Good foresight again, Larry.