Posted November 28, 2012

Ndamukong Suh fined $30,000 for kick of Matt Schaub, says it was inadvertent

NFL

The NFL fined Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh $30,000 for his kick of Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub during a Thanksgiving day game, as first reported by MLive.com’s Anwar Richardson. It is the fifth fine of Suh’s career.

After Suh was taken to the ground, his foot swung toward Schaub and hit him in the groin. The league said on Monday that it was reviewing the play, but Suh would not be suspended.

While speaking to reporters Wednesday Suh maintained that the kick was “inadvertent” and “part of the game,” according to Detroit Free Press beat writer Dave Birkett.

Colts coach Bruce Arians, whose team is preparing to face the 4-7 Lions on Sunday, said during a conference call with reporters that he did not think Suh’s kick was intentional. “He plays the way the game’s supposed to be played,” Arians said.

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29 comments
AndrewM1
AndrewM1

The problem with Suh's claim is you can see the video.  It's not his foot and leg colliding because of momentum from the fall.  Once his foot makes contact, you can see the additional force, intentionally applied, in a direction that is not the same as the momentum that led to the initial contact.

m.guszak
m.guszak

You see, Mr. Suh, when you do bad things all the time, people tend to assume that every bad thing you do is intentional. But no worries, the consistent justice of Roger Goodell is in effect. No suspension, but a $30k fine.

KennethIcantstop
KennethIcantstop

I like you Suh because you are a good player at times and you play for the Lions but that was dirty so stop with the bulls...!

tommiedonovan
tommiedonovan

A similar thing happened in my office yesterday.  I was in the break room making a cup of coffee.  I tripped on a stirring straw and started to fall.  I twisted so my left shoulder would take the brunt of the fall (I am right handed).  As I twisted and rolled, my right heel caught both testicles of my boss.  The first blow was by accident, but the following 13 were intentional.  Don't tell anyone.  As you can see from the security video, the entire incident was a freak event. 

grenadetrade
grenadetrade

I don't get it... how long does it take to keep reviewing the case and in the meantime, fine him? What kind of craziness it that? Call it for what it is, NFL - he's a dirty player who keeps making dirty plays and he should be suspended, if not banned from playing the game.

RichardLarson
RichardLarson

Suh apparently has well established problems with personal honesty and behavior within parameters set by society.   He is unable to accept the fact that his behavior, whether intentional, or inadvertent, is beyond basic norms of fair play and sporting conduct.  He needs to publicly demonstrate that he has accepted that his behavior is unacceptable and that he can play the game within the scope of the rules.  The Lions should put him on probation where any infraction resulting in a personal foul will cost him a day's wages until he has succeeded in cleaning up his act.  

 

rifleman
rifleman

He's a jerk and dirty player. If you watch the replay slowly you can see where he plainly gives his leg an extra kick toward his privates. He should have gotten at least a $75K fine.

Eurekaman
Eurekaman

$100,000. Get the meathead's attention.

Deano
Deano

He knew what he was trying to do, Try to NOT kick people when they are down or standing, This guy is Dirty and being a Lions fan we don't need moon crickets like this

JimRadley
JimRadley

I really dont think very highly of Suh but he should appeal this. His face was in the turf and not even looking in that direction. I would think if he meant to do that he would be looking toward his target. His reputation bit him on this one though. Dont care for him at all but thats a raw deal there. I would be the first one calling for his head if it were even remotely intentional.

Michael14
Michael14

Suh really, truly is a piece of work - frankly, he's lucky (incredibly lucky) that his skill and talent as a football player make him worthwhile to society in some capacity. It's pretty obvious that he's got significant personality disorders, anger management issues, difficulty telling the truth, and generally sociopathic tendencies. Absent his athletic gifts, he'd be dead or in prison after about four days in any community.

morphy
morphy

Sucks does everything on purpose. When was the last time anyone saw a lineman kick his leg out like that when going down? should have been suspended for two games at least.

Gers58
Gers58

WHY he get fine if NFL did not find evidence that he did it on purpose? AM I missing something?

Steven27
Steven27

this guy is an emotional midget. none of his dirty hits were "on purpose" according to him. he need to have his knees taken out.

bayllie15
bayllie15

I think he did it on purpose..

deanerindy
deanerindy

I think it is funny that when the incident happened CBS and their announcers didn't even say anything expect for sly little comments.  Then CBS went to commercial break and when they came back OOOHHHH was this intentional. What a joke some big wig at CBS during the break wanted to make it bigger then it was so they made it and everyone bit.  I understand the Suh had some issue;s in the past, but stop looking into every incident and making it bigger then it is.

katstegink
katstegink

My only comment without getting into whether it was inadvertent or not is this simple fact.  The NFL is completely backwards on this situation.  Suh was not suspended because they said it was not intentional (NFL said it).  So if it was unintentional like the NFL said then there should be no reason for a fine. 

Commenter
Commenter

I just watched this video a few times on youtube.  He kicked him on purpose.  His head turns to the left at the last second to check the target and then he brings his foot down violently on the QB.  It was not a natural physical action, even with the OL engaged with him.  AND given Suh's history, he should be suspended and fined heavily. 

Michael14
Michael14

 @RichardLarson Well stated, my friend. I'm perfectly willing to grant Suh's defenders (a tiny faction) that the kick, like "the stomp" and any number of other misbehaviors on his part, wasn't a calculated attempt to castrate a fellow NFL player, so much as it was an aggressive reflex from an energetic, emotional athlete. That said, it's perfectly consistent with the pattern we've long witnessed in Suh's performance: a consistent inability to restrain himself (and his limbs) from testing the bounds of sportsmanship, followed by an inability to acknowledge his failings in a mature, honest fashion.

 

He's immensely talented, but these shenanigans will slow (and ultimately damage) the kid's career unless something changes.

Michael14
Michael14

 @JimRadley A number of things are clear from the replays - Suh's awareness of Shaub's position, chief among them. His body language reveals precisely what one might expect from a professional football player whose chief goal, much of the time, is to pursue and tackle the quarterback: Suh is carefully tracking his target until the instant he's driven into the ground himself, at which point he turns his face towards the ground.

 

In this play, he's failed in his task. He doesn't accomplish his goal, to grab and bring Shaub down. Perhaps it's a matter of aggressive reflex, more instinctive than calculated, but he executes what can only be called a "kick" in the quarterback's direction as his ability to wrap and tackle Shaub is taken from him.

 

It strikes me as disingenuous - nay, freaky - that anyone would pass the behavior off as accidental or inadvertent. I don't get it, JimRadley.

Michael14
Michael14

 @deanerindy Has it been made "bigger than it is?" I don't think it's been "made" into anything - it simply is what it is. As a matter of routine, Suh does stupid stuff like kick fellow players in the nads, which makes him a problem player and a regular subject of discipline. That's not an observation that requires "looking into every incident," inflating these stories, or conducting any sort of conspiracy to damage his reputation.

PaulRentz
PaulRentz

 @Commenter I didn't think so at first, but I really wonder now. Yes, he's not looking while on the ground BUT before he goes down he knows where the quarterback is...why would his leg go at such an odd angle otherwise? Either way, with his history he now has to prove he's innocent.

JimRadley
JimRadley

 @Commenter You must be looking at another video. Seen it from two angles, his face is in the turf. He was too busy trying to brace his face from impact with the ground. You dreaming there, and I hate Suh. :D Wishful watching there, you saw what you wanted to see.

Steven27
Steven27

 @Commenter of course he did it on purpose...are you all blind or just stupid. he is a thug, with a history of this crap and until he really hurts somebody (inadvertently, of course) the legue will continue to cover for him.

rifleman
rifleman

 @m.guszak  Mark is doing great. He comes home every now and then...

rifleman
rifleman

 @JimRadley  @Commenter  His face isn't in the turf. He's looking up at Schaub and gives his leg an extra nudge to hit him there. Quit making excuses for the creep.