Posted September 12, 2012

Joe Namath slams Tim Tebow, again

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Hall of Famer Joe Namath doesn’t think Jets backup Tim Tebow has the skills to be the starter for the team. (Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images)

Hall of Famer Joe Namath is hoping New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez stay healthy the entire season, because he can’t imagine backup Tim Tebow taking the reins.

Namath once again said Tebow has a great work ethic, but questions his skills and doesn’t think Tebow is even a suitable back-up.

“God forbid something happens to Sanchez. See, this is where I’m confused. I don’t think the second guy really is Tebow,” Namath told ESPN.com.

Tebow had only 11 yards on five carries in the Jets opening day blowout of the Buffalo Bills and has completed 47 percent of his passes over his career.

“I don’t think he can consistently play the quarterback position as we know it as opposed to the Wildcat without improving his passing accuracy,” Namath said of Tebow. “You’ve got to be more accurate than that today, and Tim’s got a big motion. He’s working on it, and he can improve it. So that remains to be seen.”


91 comments
Anaximenes1
Anaximenes1

joe willie's a party animal---he hates tebow and his views--no surprise.  Mark is a crazy man at the NY clubs---the chicks want him and joe wants to be like him.

Greg15
Greg15

Joe Namath's career spanned 13 years in the NFL. In 2 of those 13 years did he ever throw more TDs than Ints. Year 1 he had 18 TDs & 15 Ints. Year 5 he had 19 TDs and 17 Ints. The other 11 years he had more interceptions than TDs. In year 3 he threw 26 TDs but had 28 Ints. Career TDs-173, Interceptions-220; 47 more interceptions than TDs. His career completion percentage: 50.1%. Do I need to say anything more Mr. Namath? Stats from NFL.com

joeshine
joeshine

Joe Namath is a dried out old drunk who cannot deal with being a nobody at 70 years old. Namath has no wife no woman 2 wild unmarried daughters with illegitimate kids dumped on him and mooching off old Joe. Joe Namath is nothing but a mess and an angry  drunken old fool who cannot deal with no-one caring what the senile old goat has to say about anything. Namath played 45 years ago big deal.

dinohealth
dinohealth

Come on, Joe, quit dragging yourself in the mud, and, give the kid a break! Hey, he is not going to get better unless he plays; an, we cannot find that out the way things are. Last time he did that consistently, he took the Denver Broncos on a run to the playoffs! I might add, he had a better winning percentage with the Broncos, than his replacement currently has! Now, he has been a class act in the way he is handling his current punishing isolation from any meaningful participation in the game he loves. Truly, a team player. No need for legends to pile on, Joe!

MichaelHart
MichaelHart

Exactly - who cares what Joe thinks, I'm not a Tebow fanatic.  Look at Namath's career stats.  He had the one game in the Superbowl where he bragged they were going to win and the defense held the other team down enough.  Joe Namath's best was walking around with fur coats and being Broadway Joe.  His career completion percentage was a whopping 50%.  In 13 NFL Season he threw 173 TDs and had 220 interceptions.  In those 13 seasons, he only had two seasons where he barely had more TDs than interceptions.  That one big win Jets put the AFL on the map and other than that Namath is a mediocre overhyped athlete.

Ken Rigsby
Ken Rigsby

And who really cares what Joe thinks? Is he another Jim Brown? Man, why can't these guys ever seem to go away? Must be the after effects of all that hard living and it's affect on the mind. Go home Joe and put on some men's underwear. We'll call you when we need you.

George
George

Not a Tebow fanatic, but Joe is being inconsistent and making himself look foolish.

 

We all appreciate what you did for the NFL, we all respect you, 

now you've HAD your say, Joe.

Shut up for a while and let it work itself out.

Jim22
Jim22

Hey Joe, go get hammered and try and kiss Suzy Kolber again !!! Just shut up , nobody listens to old has been qb's !!!

RayPowers
RayPowers

There's no way in hell you can compare Namath's era (when quarterbacks were still men) and today. 2012 rules are more finesse than the Lingerie Bowl (google that brutal hit!). Football stats are the most irrelevant stats in pro sports (QB ratings being the biggest joke), especially when attempting to compare eras. Forget Ben Davidson breaking his jaw, Namath took more hits in his day than any of the queens that play today (save for Roethlisberger, Vick and maybe Eli Manning who receive no league protection). Vicious hits (even 4-5 steps late) were just part of the game. A QB's most valuable asset was simply being tough enough to stay upright, in the game and get the job done, no matter how ugly or gritty. Broadway Joe from Beaver Falls is a winner - on the field, at the bar and with the ladies. That's why he has so many haters.

dbmiller55
dbmiller55

Namath has the worst stats of any Hall of Fame QB. Losing record, barely 50% completion rate, many more INT's to TD's. He should shut up.  Or maybe he is talking from experience. He knows a bad QB because he was one.

aaeko
aaeko

As a Denver fan, and Tebow skeptic I had to suffer through the whole Tebow / Orton drama.  I was excited when Tebow when Tebow got the start  simply because Orton was so terrible.  I would prefer Sanchez over Tebow any day of the week.  With that being said, as much as I hate to admit it, with Tebow, it isn't about stats.  He DOES find a way to win.  At the end of the day, I guess the only stats that should matter are the Win / Loss ones...  But it is so hard to put faith in a guy like Tebow who is probably the worst pocket QB in the league.

esgalan2
esgalan2

Really, I don't see why people  go ballistic about Namath's comments :

 

All he said was that Tebow need to substantially improve his passing in order to become a starting NFL quarterback, which is obvious to anyone who's got a passing familiarity with the way football is played today, at the top. 

 

I quote :

 

"I don’t think he can consistently play the quarterback position as we know it as opposed to the Wildcat without improving his passing accuracy,”

 

The operative word here being "consistently". I really don't see how one can disagree with that statement.

 

And Namath's comment is far from being disrespectful of Tebow :

 

 “You’ve got to be more accurate than that today, and Tim’s got a big motion. He’s working on it, and he can improve it. So that remains to be seen...

 

Does he say that Tebow sucks ? No. he says Tebow needs to improve.

 

Does he say that Tebow is a "lost cause" who never will be able to play starter at QB ? No.  he says that remains to be seen.

 

How can that be construed  as "slamming" Tebow is a mistery.... until of course you remember that titles in that internet age is all about making people mouseclick on it.

 

The only one "slamming" tebow is the cheap hack who wrote the title.

 

mike c
mike c

Pass attempts 3,762 Namath's stats Pass completions 1,886 Percentage 50.1 TD-INT 173–220 Passing yards 27,663 QB Rating 65.5

clemente21
clemente21

But he does want to kiss him, lol.

JoeTyra
JoeTyra

It's funny you guys are just quoting each other.  

The jets overall winning percentage is 46%, so Namath's is better than that.  

He gave the Jets their ONLY AFC championship and their only Super Bowl victory!  

He gave them their first 11 win season, and it wasn't until 17 years later that they got their next one.

David47
David47

Joe Namath has a career completion percentage of right at 50%, if I am not mistaken he only had a season or two where he threw more TDs than he did interceptions. Joe Namath was a joke at Quarterback and would not make a single NFL roster today. He made a bold prediction and he and his team backed it up. That is all he ever did. He has no right publicly bashing Tebow the way he does, everyone is entitled to an opinion I know but there is no need to put it out in the media the way he does. He is scared to death that Tebow is going to be the Jet that finally makes people forget about his drunk ass!!

DavidBrandt
DavidBrandt

I know tebow is not a normal QB and this current set up is probably the way to go, but I am getting really sick of Mr. Namath and his big mouth downing him all the time. 

 

DanBernhardt1
DanBernhardt1

Joe doesn't want the Jets to win the big game. Simple. Once that happens, he will no longer have any relevancy other than a mediocre QB that one a Superbowl. There are plenty of them already around.

JeffreyRiley1
JeffreyRiley1

I'm not pulling for Sanchez to get injured but I'd love to see Tebow at QB in a tight situation.  If he does his usual (finds a way to win), the Jets will build a statue of him, then they'll tear it down a few days later when they once more come to the conclusion that he sucks. 

James30
James30

You people bashing Joe Willie by sayign he was bad in his day are clueless. Completely clueless. It was NOT the same game then. Back then defenses could ride a receivers back all the way down the field, face guard, etc. in his day Joe was the best he was a beast and if he'd played in this day and age he'd make today's best QB's (except Payton) look BAD. He was THAT good.

geotim35
geotim35

Since all you Tebow fanatics want compare stats I got something for you, stats from both their second years in the pro's

                                                 G Att Comp Pct  Yds    TD

Joe Namath 1966 New York Jets 14 471 232  49.3  3,379  19 (in an era with no pass interference)

Tim Tebow   2011  Denver           14 271 126  46.5  1,729  12

It would appear if Namath played in this era he would better Tebow.

mrjduran
mrjduran

Joe go smoke whatever your smoking old man and quit trying to know it all. Your a one and done nobody likes you. Tebow is a great athlete and quarterback if he had the chance on the right team

geotim35
geotim35

I hate to break it to you Tebow lovers, but Namath is right. For all the hard work people talk about.....he still isn't getting better. You keep saying give him time, but after 3 years there still is no improvement in his ability to pass. You couple that with the 15+ he's been a quarterback, and you will come to the conclusion that he won't get better. That is if you stop looking at him with love in your eyes, and start looking at him with the eyes that expect to see improvement. Do that and you'll see that he is severely lacking on the improvement. Which is one reason why John Elway pulled the trigger on trading him. I saw 3 rookie QB's on Sunday that I feel are light years ahead of Tebow when it comes to playing the position. If he is as humble as all of you claim, he would realize that he's not good enough to play QB in the NFL, but he is good enough to play in the NFL. But in his ARROGANCE, he insist on playing QB which will hurt his legacy in the end. I like Tebow he's real good kid, and has the potential to be a good player in the league. But as QB...........He couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing on the bottom.

dinohealth
dinohealth

@MichaelHart In all fairness to Joe, half of the time he was lucky if he could stand in the pocket; that is how banged-up his knees were. In spite of all, however, he had the ability to thread a needle with his passes before you could bat an eyelid. OK, so Joe could throw, and, Tebow, so far, not that well. Still, Tebow did something his first 3/4 season that Joe did as well: took his team to the playoffs with improbable, clutch, llast-minute, wins! Tebow needs to play consistently, if, not the Jets, then, somewhere else. Only then will we know if he can continue to be a winner (as he already was in his one, 3/4. starting season)!

Janet
Janet

You must be a young one or are just bitter about something.  I'm sure Joe didn't go out hunting someone to give his opinion to.   And, when he was asked, it was probably because he is admired for his football playing days & not his family life.  Give Joe a break as I don't think anyone asked for your opinion of Joe, did they?  I'm not positive, but feel like, by your anger, that you might be one of those Republicans campaigning for Romney. (smile)

 

 

DominicZupan
DominicZupan

 @Ken Rigsby

 Who cares what YOU think. Joe is in a far better position to comment than YOU. Same to you michaelhart.

dinohealth
dinohealth

@George Yep, no need to pile on on the kid. Joe ought to go on a date, or, something, and leave the kid alone...

Biggithe
Biggithe

 @dbmiller55 Talking about shutting up, did you ever actually see Namath play? Stats don't tell the whole story of QBs, and as a rabid Dolphin fan in the 60's and beyond, Namath was scary. 

pljaye
pljaye

I live in Colorado, and if you're actually a Denver fan, I would assume you also noticed Fox and McCoy's lousy play-calling last year, which allowed Tebow an opportunity to throw maybe once every five or six plays. Tell me, how many NFL qbs can get in any sort of rhythm with that type of play-calling? Why do you think that Tebow's passer rating soared in the fourth quarter? Could it be because Fox opened up the offense and let Tebow throw since they were usually behind at that point and needed to score? Perhaps you should look a little closer at the reason for Tebow's struggles early in games as opposed to when he's so much better at the end of the game, when the pressure's the greatest.

mjhellund
mjhellund

 @David47 Had the Colts played Johnny U the whole game, Namath would be remembered as a bigger buffoon than he is considered now.

RPbeacher
RPbeacher

 @David47 - and you make no allowance for the type of offenses run at the time. Most of the other elite QB's of the era had a % completion record in the 50 range as well. Today, with the short passes and the West Coast a QB needs to complete at least 65% to be considered decent. Learn your history before showing your ignorance.

John73
John73

 @David47 're simply crazy.  Joe Namath was one of the most gifted QBs in the history of pro football, despite being essentially crippled, and playing on horrible teams in the 70s.  Put Namath on the Cowboys or Steelers and they win 5 Super Bowls.  He's simply one of the best passers in history-the picks were due to the Jets always being behind by 2 TDs, and being the only skilled player on the Offense.  He attempted throws no one else would because he had no choice.

ToddSzatkowski
ToddSzatkowski

 @James30 back in my day, we had to walk 20 miles every day to school through snow uphill both ways.. sorry, I'm sure he was very good actually. Of course, the only memory I have of Joe Namath growing up was because he was the guy Cindy wrote to on the Brady Bunch because Bobby was very, very sick.. :)

larrybradford
larrybradford

 @James30 .... Right on....Joe Willie was as good as it got in his time frame. He also has a right to his opinion, and I am sure that like Bradshaw, he is not worried about protecting his records or SB wins. BTW, his SB win was so big that it resulted in the complete merger of the NFL, AFL

tonyconner74
tonyconner74

 @James30

 Lombardi says that Namath was the only Quarterback that threw the. perfect spiral.....the  sound it made when it zipped by...... you was pure!....Broadway Joe was one of the best!

geotim35
geotim35

 @James30 couldn't said it better myself, not mention the horrible playing conditions.

danerodriguez
danerodriguez

 @geotim35 You forgot Broadway Joe's 27 INTs to Tebow's 6...I will say that I am a Jets fan, not particularly a fan of Tebow, but let's be fair.

americaneaglecorp
americaneaglecorp

What 3 rookies did you see. Luck looked dazed and confused, threw for less than 50%, and if not for Wayne making crazy fantastic catches it would have been worse. Weeden had a QB rating below 10, enough said. Tannehill missed passes all day, except to the texan's def line. RG3 looked great on paper but watch the film and the Saints were they AINTS of old, no pass rush, no containment, shoddy tackling and Brees looked horrible over throwing by 10 ft. As for it being his 3rd year, most Qbs dont see the field in their first 3 seasons, Brady-Rodgers-Flynn all didn't. The ones that did start their first year were horrible. Elway, Aikman, Manning all struggled losing almost all of the games their 1st year as a starter. In fact, if you would research you would find that Tebow in his first 16 starts out played most HOF Qbs in every category except comp %. Last, this is Tim's 3rd Off Cor. and playbook in his 3 yrs. Brady, Rodgers, and Flynn all studied the same system for 3 yrs before seeing action. Compared to other Qbs of equal experience Tebow is developing just fine..  @geotim35 

danerodriguez
danerodriguez

Even Namath doesn't believe that Namath is right. He's an old man clinging to whatever semblance of fame he has left. He claims to love Rex Ryan and how he does things, but bashes any decision he's asked about...As far as Tebow, he did lead Denver to some big wins (yea yea...NFC West is weak...completion percentage is low...etc etc). The Ws are there to back him up. Your 3 amazing rookies don't have that yet. I can't imagine that all Tebow is in New York for is to run 2-3 yard scrambles up the middle; we're in Week 2, let's give this thing a chance to play out before we start throwing people into the ocean.

DominicZupan
DominicZupan

 @Ken Rigsby

 Even SI reports that Tebow is probably going to be "one and done" with the jets. So I guess Joe may be right.

dinohealth
dinohealth

@pljaye I am with you on this one. I noticed that also, and I am not a Denver fan; but, I definitely followed Tebow. Folks ought to take into account, that the only time this kid was given the opportunity to play consistently, he was a winner! No small thing to take that team to the playoffs after the dismal start it had! Moreover, he had a winning percentage that is higher than what his successor is currently posting! Just saying....it isn't fair to bash him~!

KenMoore
KenMoore

 @John73  @David47  Goes to show how much you actually now about Joe Namath .....pass completion through out your career is 50.1 % most seasons was 48 % 49 %   yards per carry career rushing  2   7 td's         passing  177 td's   220 INT's   ( that is 43 count them 43 more INT's than TD's  )     65.5 QB RATING     140 GAMES PLAYED  ALL TIME RECORD 62 -63- 4    not even a .500 career win %        yup he was gifted alright   NOT...!!!!

 

YOU CALL THAT GIFTED      WOW  YOU ARE JUST  CARZY      GIFTED IS    Montana Bradshaw , Brady , both Mannings, Brees, Marino   Trankenton , just to name a few thoughs were gifted Namath was a friggin joke how he made the hall of fame with those numbers is the biggest joke of the HALL OF FAME  

 

He would not even be a 4 th QB on a team  not even the USFL back in the 80's would have played him

 

geotim35
geotim35

 @danerodriguez you're not going to throw a lot of int's if the pass is nowhere near the receiver. And no pass interference,(like it was when Namath played) means DB's can do stuff like pull a receiver out the way before the ball gets there make the interception, it make a big difference. That's why the rule exist.

 

KenMoore
KenMoore

 @americaneaglecorp  

Brady in his second year in the NFL  played and UMMM I do believe he won the SUPER BOWL   HIS FIRST YEAR PLAYING  then his 3rd  and 4 th year also  TEBOW  cannot  even hold Brady's  jock strap

geotim35
geotim35

 @americaneaglecorp Surprise, surprise, Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck look better than Tebow too, like I said. And Skip Bayless (who I loath) the biggest Tebow lover of them all said and I quote "Tim Tebow could never EVER dream of being as good as passer as RGIII", and he's a rookie too! I mean really when is his fans going to hold him to the same standard as everyone else in the league? Because they have no problem bashing other players, while turning a blind eye to the flaws in his game..

GaryPollard
GaryPollard

 @americaneaglecorp  @geotim35

 You need to get your facts straight. Tom Brady was a starting QB his second year with 63.9% completion rate. Tebow compares poorly with him in every category.

Grant S
Grant S

 @danerodriguez Tebow lead his team on a bunch of late game winning drives in which for most of the game he would be ineffective..

 

Without the defense playing flat out amazingly in the second half of the season (and for 58 minutes of each game when Tebow had done absolutely nothing) those late game drives would have been nothing but garbage time points.

 

Don't get me wrong the man is clutch when he needs to be, but to say he is responsible for those W's is so short sighted its not even funny..

 

Tebow cannot be effective starting QB without a great supporting case, namely a good defense. In fact I don't think one of those wins had him coming back from more than one score.. Which is a completely different dynamic than having to rely on the passing game when you are down.

 

Ask yourself this, if Tebow is forced to put up 30-40 passes in a game, how many of those would be off target or go for interceptions? All you have to do is look at the big Denver blowouts last year (Detroit for example) to see what happens when the defense was not there to support him.

geotim35
geotim35

 @danerodriguez It's the AFC west, and that D was the reason they were competitive. they were holding teams to 13 points or less. And those 3 rookies ARE better passers then him. Again he's been the league for 3 years and still hasn't improved his passing, not even a little. He's misses receivers, skips passes on the ground, over throws on simple 5 and out passing drills. Like I said stop looking at him love in your eyes and look at him with eyes that expect improvement. And the W's they went 8 and 8 and backed in to the playoffs, that's nothing to hang your hat on. Not to mention that no other team wanted to trade for him. But then again you don't know that Denver is in the AFC, so I doubt you know much about football as a whole. Btw I didn't say anything about throwing people in the ocean. I said he couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing on the bottom, as in his passing skills are horrible. .

skyewauker
skyewauker

 @KenMoore  @americaneaglecorp You have downs hah.

 

How do you get he played his second year and won a super bowl to his first year playing winning that same super bowl?

 

Are you thinking of Ben Roethlisberger?

americaneaglecorp
americaneaglecorp

 @geotim35  @americaneaglecorp How do they look better than Tebow. Luck was throwing for 50% and losing. He is totally supported by the team and management. Wilson is about the same.The only way the hawks beat the Pack was poor refs. Tebow isn't the same style players as these two. What Tebow accomplished he did with a GM and coach that plotted against him. They aired their doubts in the media. they got rid of their best rec. and he still won. Oh by the way, Tebow has the second highest comp. % in SEC history ( better than both Mannings), but he can't pass. Hey for more Tebow talk try a new site I found John316sports.com. Talk to your there. Spread the word.

J.r.Murray
J.r.Murray

 @geotim35  @americaneaglecorp

 Any comparison of the two must take into the consideration the fundemental changes in the game. Nameth played in the era where defensive backs were allowed much more contact with receivers, the game as a whole was dominated by the run. Todays game has rules that favor receivers and it is essentailly a passing game. The size, strengh and speed of today players are greater than yesteryear. All this makes comparisons across eras a trickly proposition.

s M1
s M1

 @geotim35  @pljaye Well, I am a Steeler fan, and I had to listen for 6 years how Kordell Stewart was going to be a good QB in the NFL. Once teams figured him out.....9 in the box he sucked....more.  I would of rather had Tebow for 6 years that that DA.

geotim35
geotim35

 @pljaye Ok, so..........was he under center for any team today? No, why? Because he is a liability when it comes to passing. You can make all the excuses, the coaches, having a team that believes in him, whatever. But that has nothing to do with him not getting better at what QB is supposed to do, throw the ball. You saw in the Pre season, he's just not getting better in that area. For all that stuff you said is he still playing Denver? If he was soooo great as you clearly imagine they would have not traded him away for whatever they could have got. It wasn't like teams, like Miami, and The Browns jumped at the chance to get him. They rather had took chances with rookies. And btw, everybody knows except Tebow fans that without that defense making stops he would not be in position to make that one drive at the end of the game. At the end of the day, I know what I saw, because having Sunday Ticket allowed me to, and I saw he same thing the Denver front office saw. There's no way they were going to win a Super Bowl (because that's what it's all about) with him as the QB period. I may not be no expert but me and the EXPERTS that run that team saw the same thing. But I guess they were wrong too. I guess it's like they say, you can't tell Tebow lovers anything.

pljaye
pljaye

Uh, Denver's defense was only ranked 20th last year in yardage allowed (worse in points allowed) and gave up 40 or more points a league-leading FIVE times. In fact, they gave up 40 or more points in THREE of Denver's final FIVE games last season--I believe the final five games are in the second half of the season, when you claimed that Denver's D was playing so well.

 

By the way, that same defense that went 8-5 and beat the Steelers in the playoffs when Tebow was starting also went 1-4 when Orton was starting. I bet you have a similarly nonsensical explanation for that as the one you already gave, but I'm a Coloradoan and witnessed every game that the Broncos played last year--I'm almost certain that you didn't--and Tebow was definitely the reason for Denver's turnaround. But why believe indisputable facts like wins and losses and clutch 90-yard fourth quarter touchdown drives when we have your "expert" analysis, right?

geotim35
geotim35

 @danerodriguez How am I biased and expecting him to fail? I'm going off what my eyes see in front of me, and they see a guy that has not improved the weakest part of his game which for a QB is liability. I don't expect to him fail, I expect him to get better and he hasn't.  The truth is what is, THE TRUTH.

danerodriguez
danerodriguez

 @geotim35 There's no love in my eyes for Tebow, but at the same time you seem to be looking at him with an expectation that he'll fail which is just as biased. As I said, I'm a Jets fan, not a Tebow fan. I was not thrilled about the trade, but it happened. He's in his third year now, and the WR corps is not great. Will we see improvement? Who knows? But I guess since a typo is the end-all, be-all when it comes to message board arguments, I'm done. Enjoy the season, geotim!