Posted August 09, 2012

Elway: Peyton is two Super Bowl wins shy of being best ever

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John Elway wants Peyton Manning to be NFL’s best ever. (Justin Edmonds/Getty Images)

Upon welcoming Peyton Manning to the Broncos, John Elway said he wanted to make Manning “the best quarterback to play the game.” Considering Elway’s own Broncos’ quarterbacking legacy, how is the Hall of Famer going to raise eventual Hall-of-Famer Manning to such a lofty position? The NFL Network’s Albert Breer has Elway’s answer:

“Winning championships, that’s the only way,” Elway said, sitting by the Broncos’ practice fields and picking through sunflower seeds as his team went through an afternoon practice session. “If he wins two more championships, he’ll be, without a doubt, the greatest quarterback ever to play the game. So when I said that, for me, what I meant, that’s about winning world championships. He’s got the numbers, he has the stats, those will never change, they’ll just get better and better.
“But for us to make Peyton the greatest quarterback that’s ever played, what will separate him, because now he’s in the conversation, if he wins a couple more before he’s done, then he’ll be right at the top of the list.”


6 comments
MaxHernandez
MaxHernandez

just two Superbowls...sounds like a piece of cake to me.

lionoah
lionoah

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Elway is the president of the Denver Broncos and Peyton Manning is the quarterback of the team. It's in his interest to say that. Season ticket sales just got a little bump.

 

Back in reality, manning played 8 games a year in a dome. For the last half of his career he has played in the most pass happy era ever. One of the all-time greats sure, but his playoff record is a shame all things considered, and ultimately he is Marino with a championship. True, if Manning gets two more, you have a solid argument that he is the best ever, but my top three of Montana, Brady and Elway isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

PaulCarpenter
PaulCarpenter

GOODF LUCK!!!! WHEN HE TAKES A HARD HIT TO THE HEAD HE MAY BE EATING LUNCH THROUGH A STRAW.  IS IT REALLY WORTH IT????????????????????

 

John17
John17

He has to win them first,  Mr. Horseteeth.

E
E

Manning's already one of the greatest QBs to ever play. Due to the nature of Super Bowls being more team efforts than reflections on individuals (else, you'd have to rate Dilfer as being better than Marino), I'd say that 2 more would be icing on the cake more than anything else. Granted, Elway's got a point: 2 more would put it beyond any and all conceivable doubt. It's just that to me, any doubt that remains at this point is based on a limited view of what makes a QB the greatest ever. I wouldn't put Big Ben over Marino, nor (no offense to the Mannings) Eli, but if you only measure by Super Bowl rings, they're both better. And again, there's Dilfer. So therein lies the flaw in the argument.

 

Not that I'm complaining, though. If Manning gets 2 more rings, I'd be happy as a clam. I just don't think they're necessary to include him in the conversation, that's all. 

hinzeeebro1
hinzeeebro1

 @E Using Super Bowls as one of the measurables is ok. It does not mean Dilfer is better than Marino. When looking at the careers of HOF QBs Super Bowls should be considered. Marino and Manning both perform worse in the playoffs than in the regular season. Manning's career post season record is 8-9, with 7 1 and dones. His completion percentage drops from 64.8 to 62.2 in the playoffs and his QB rating drops from 97.4 to 88.3. Manning benefited from playing crappy teams 6 times a year. Is he a HOF, sure but his game did not rise when he entered the playoffs--it sank. Same with Danny boy. Marino has a career regular season passer rating of 86.4. His postseason passer rating was just 77.1. He played in 18 playoff games, and won just eight of them.